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New CDC Death rate Estimates for the Virus!

Posted on 03/27/2020 2:17:28 PM PDT by BereanBrain

Ok, now prepare yourselves as this will NO DOUBT be on the news tonite.

The CDC just issued new preliminary death, hospitalization, and illness numbers for the virus sweeping the country and taking citizens in it's deathly wake.

The OFFICIAL numbers for the season are (estimated) 38-52 Million Ill with the Virus 18-26 Million will need medical visits up to 730,000 will NEED Hospitalization And UP TO 24,000 to 62,000 will die of the virus or related causes due to the virus.

Here is the LINK https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

Oh, wait - those are the numbers for the regular old Flue from LAST YEAR.

Now, don't you see how out-of-control this whole hyped coronavirus situation is? Yes, its a virus and people have died. But a MINISCULE amount compared to who dies last year from the regular FLU.

Oh, the new breathlessly says up to 500,000 may be hospitalized with the coronavirus - hey, 700,000 were hospitalized last year from regular flu and we handled it with no problem.

What a bunch of gullible idiots we all are.


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To: MNJohnnie

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“Oh, wait - those are the numbers for the regular old Flue from LAST YEAR.”


41 posted on 03/27/2020 2:49:58 PM PDT by Ken H (Best SOTU ever!)
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To: BeauBo

And it’s only costing us 6+ Trillion dollars we don’t have and won’t pay off.


42 posted on 03/27/2020 2:50:53 PM PDT by Leep (Everyday is Trump Day!)
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To: calenel

Those that died today didn’t die from corona exclusively, but they get tossed into the count for shock/awe.

Did 4,000 die today? Weren’t we PROMISED a nice fat body count to validate this scam?

Hmmm?

You guys are worse at math than my dogs.


43 posted on 03/27/2020 2:50:56 PM PDT by Professional
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To: BereanBrain

Stop it already! That guy who ran his car into a bridge abutment was positive for COVID-19, so he died from it.

/s (as if it’s really necessary)


44 posted on 03/27/2020 2:52:03 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Posting from deep within enemy territory - San Jose, CA)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

A lot more than are being blamed on Modelo, that’s for sure...


45 posted on 03/27/2020 2:52:38 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Posting from deep within enemy territory - San Jose, CA)
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To: JPJones

I have an example for those who are buying all this crud.

****

I have done the science and discovered that if I fart three times and turn in a circle the Sun wont go out tomorrow morning. (proceeds to fart 3 times and turn in a circle)

**fast forward to tomorrow**

SEE! I SAVED ya’ll ! the Sun did NOT go out, because my scientifically proven method to keep it from not going on worked!

Now pay me 2 trillion dollars!

See how this works?


46 posted on 03/27/2020 2:53:38 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Really? She was great.


47 posted on 03/27/2020 2:54:34 PM PDT by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: BereanBrain
From worldmeter Coronavirus page, the Coronavirus death rate is 17%. John Hopkin's numbers give the same death rate.

17% is a heck of a lot higher than the below .20% death rate for the flu.

48 posted on 03/27/2020 2:55:50 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: norcal joe

Extrapolation from the number of known serious cases - the only reliable-ish stat we have.

That would be up to 3.3 million. I think exposures are much lower than that *today* but in a few days that won’t be true.

If you have a better methodology, feel free to provide a better number. I built a lot of slop into my estimate on purpose so I wouldn’t have to quibble about whether it’s half a million or 3 million. And math is hard for FluBros, y’know?

If you assume that *all* the reported cases are serious/critical (not true, many are not) and that it follows the distribution we have seen in other countries with well-tested populations, then the 80k+ cases we had as of this morning implies that there are 3.2 million infected people. I am willing to call the difference between presymptomatic-serious/critical cases and mild/asymptomatic-confirmed cases a wash, since in an exponential growth situation the smaller percentage of serious/critical cases comes from a much bigger slice than the mild/asymptomatic cases.

If you really care.

Please, though, if you have a legitimate gripe with my approach given the limited data we have and the generous (to the FluBros) assumptions I have made, by all means. I need the real numbers more than I need to be right.


49 posted on 03/27/2020 2:58:57 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: BereanBrain

So worse case 52M infected an 62k die that’s .1192%

Far less than the normal flu...


50 posted on 03/27/2020 3:04:22 PM PDT by maddog55
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To: BereanBrain

Actually this is the flu not COVID-19


51 posted on 03/27/2020 3:07:38 PM PDT by maddog55
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To: gcparent

Yeah they let her go..figures, look at who is running the show at Fox News, Paul Ryan, he wants to turn Fox News into commie news


52 posted on 03/27/2020 3:10:41 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Kozak

I am more of a FluBro than a Fearper but I do understand where the calmer Fearpers are coming from. When this is all over, both groups will have something to point to to bolster the points they are making today.

But to me, here’s the rub: from early on, certain groups in government and the press have made outlandish claims that never seem to come true. (DeWine’s comments two weeks ago that 100,000 people inOhio already had it, that it is increasing at 35% per day, 1.4% will die from it)

Once their ‘facts’ are disproven time and again it gets harder to believe them with their next outlandish claim.

So yes, I think most FluBros acknowledge that the disease is serious. That it is a killer. It very well may have a fatality rate several times higher than an average year of regular flu.

And people just die. It is a part of life. I feel bad for each incremental death from this disease just as I do for the thousands that die from every other cause.

But with proper hygiene and good medical care the risks for those with no preconditions is really pretty low. And with enough lead time, those with serious preconditions can make arrangements to reduce their risk as well.

So, with all that, is it really necessary to completely shut down the country when most of the country is at minimal risk?


53 posted on 03/27/2020 3:11:52 PM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: Professional

“Those that died today didn’t die from corona exclusively, but they get tossed into the count for shock/awe.”

Right, another demented conspiracy theory. Anybody’s death that was hastened by CCP-19 was killed by CCP-19. Anybody that died from a car crash, electrocution, gunshot, etc., whether they had CCP-19 or not, did not die from CCP-19.

“Did 4,000 die today? Weren’t we PROMISED a nice fat body count to validate this scam?”

Sadly, I doubt even that will convince some of you solipsistic morons. But give it a little time. Your FluBro-in-Chief, de Blasio made it all but a certainty.

I can go back and find posts from you fools demanding that the CCP-19 death toll exceed the flu daily death toll. So now you’ve moved the goalposts.

Why 4,000? Is that a special number? When we get there, if we (God forbid) do, that’s more than the Chinese official total for the whole thing. Seems like an absurd milestone to demand for “proof”. The whole point of all this is to try and avoid that 4,000 per day or any such large number. Italy has hit a proportionately equivalent milestone, if you like, something like 900 today.

“You guys are worse at math than my dogs.”

You only think that because you are worse at math than your dogs.

You should go volunteer at a hospital. They are begging for them. Tell them all there about how this is a scam. I’m sure they will be much relieved.


54 posted on 03/27/2020 3:12:47 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: calenel

So you extrapolated, and extrapolations mean about ...nothing really.


55 posted on 03/27/2020 3:17:26 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: BereanBrain

You don’t know what you are talking about.

I am still surprised that it needs to be explained to you.


56 posted on 03/27/2020 3:17:55 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Widget Jr

Your numbers are Whack.

26,000 deaths on 600,000 cases.

4.5%


57 posted on 03/27/2020 3:18:50 PM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: Widget Jr

From the current Worldometer numbers the death rate is actually 26,997/591,086 = 4.57%, not 17%. The Worldometer death rate for the US is 1.54%. But we don’t know the number of people who have or had COVID-19, but weren’t tested. Since the availability of the test kits was very limited until just the last few days, only the very sick and celebrities have been tested. This can greatly skew the death rate. If only 1 out of every 10 people who have COVID-19 have been tested, then the death rate will be more like 0.15%, which puts it in the range of a bad flu season.


58 posted on 03/27/2020 3:19:37 PM PDT by Pres Raygun (Repent America)
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To: maddog55

Yeah, that math works.


59 posted on 03/27/2020 3:20:23 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: BereanBrain

Can you go back and tell us how many of the hospitalized needed ICU or Repiratory care? Do you know their average stay?

This isn’t about dying. Calculate the needed hospital and ICU Bed days. Then come back and explain how that is not a big deal.

And, when it’s peaking in your city (and it will) don’t have a heart attack.

Like many other folks on FR who know nothing about how hospitals work, you are looking at the wrong numbers and coming up with incorrect conclusions.

But...it’s just the flu.


60 posted on 03/27/2020 3:25:10 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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