Posted on 03/25/2020 10:05:49 AM PDT by Mariner
Thread #26 here:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3827832/posts
The more I read about doctors and nurses getting sick and dying from this, the more proud I am of my daughter, who is a nurse in the pediatric ICU, and a transport nurse who goes out to other hospitals to bring patients back to ours, which is a major teaching hospital. She knows the risks and is doing her job. Please pray for her and all the other health care professionals, cops, firemen, EMTs and paramedics, and National Guard, who are all on the front line of this thing.
lol—great way to start the day....
I have been very pleased that the folks in this area have so much common sense—their attitude is very much “better safe than sorry”.
Let the “experts” eat the restaurant food. (The modern version of “let them eat cake” ;-) )
Doctors Are Writing Their Wills
(...pretty stupid not to already have a will prior to this)
https://dnyuz.com/2020/03/26/doctors-are-writing-their-wills/
this one here is for the FluBros
ICU doctor: Coronavirus frightens me. It’s severe, unpredictable and it has no cure.
This story is breaking my heart this morning.
Denton County is adjacent to Dallas County to the north. The Denton State Living Facility serves people with intellectual and development disabilities, currently 440 residents. They have 7 confirmed cases.
We know how easily this virus is spreading in nursing homes. What about a facility like this where these poor people can’t even understand what’s happening much less take the most basic preventative measures like staying in their rooms or washing their hands.
” We have vast experience caring for patients with acute respiratory failure, but COVID-19 appears to have a number of unique features: It is more severe, it lasts longer, it is unpredictable, it may impact the heart and, most important, there is no cure.”
“hoping against hope”
OK, we know these arguments have been shown to be wishful thinking:
1. Warm weather will kill CV
2. “Only” a small percent of population is vulnerable
Are there any legitimate arguments for why this epidemic may end sooner and be less dangerous than we (rational Americans) fear?
Unfortunately, the flu bro’s teams of “experts” seem to make the rookie mistake of focusing on death rates while ignoring hospitalization and ICU rates.
They then fail to correctly calculate even the death rates by failing to take into account the unresolved current cases—which by definition may be future deaths.
They also fail to understand what happens when health care systems get overwhelmed—since deaths from non CV diseases will easily exceed CV deaths in that circumstance.
They also confuse total numbers for a year with a spike in numbers for a week or a month.
If CV cases were spread out over a year they would be much more manageable—unfortunately the virus does not play fair.
They also rely too heavily on low death rates from younger people while ignoring the hospitalization rates for those same people.
They also ignore the length of hospital stay for CV patients vs flu or other patients.
They rely too heavily on cooked data like that from China—garbage data in, garbage results out...
etc etc etc
S KOREA
COVID-19: ‘South Korea recovery rate nearly 45%’
Death toll in South Korea now at 132, less than 5,000 patients under treatment
The recovery rate for coronavirus patients in South Korea is over 44%, local media reported Thursday.
According to daily Korea Herald, 4,144 COVID-19 patients — 44.8% of South Korea’s total 9,421 cases — have “made full recoveries” since the country reported its first case on Jan. 20.
The number of cases reached 9,421 after 104 more were confirmed by the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Wednesday, along with six fatalities that raised the death toll to 132, Yonhap News Agency reported.
This was the 15th consecutive day that South Korea reported 100 or less cases.
A total of 4,966 patients remain under treatment, 56 of them in critical condition, while 414 were discharged from hospitals on Thursday.
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/covid-19-south-korea-recovery-rate-nearly-45-/1780272
https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3102444/2
“I’ve got our residents making makeshift face shields using transparency film meant for overhead projectors.
They were in stock at Amazon yesterday”
SINGAPORE - Singapore announced 52 new coronavirus cases on Thursday (March 26), with 28 of the new patients contracting the virus overseas.
All except two of the 28 were returning residents or long-term pass holders who had travelled to Europe, North America, Middle East or other parts of Asia.
The remaining 24 cases were locally transmitted and 10 were linked to existing clusters or previous cases. Of these, two were linked to the new cluster at the PCF Sparkletots pre-school in Fengshan, and one was linked to the new cluster at Dover Court International School.
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/coronavirus-52-new-cases-announced-28-from-overseas
He looked better in a bio-suit. :-)
““I’ve got our residents making makeshift face shields using transparency film meant for overhead projectors.
They were in stock at Amazon yesterday”
The states are going to have to start replacing people. I’m talking about the executives and decision makers at the top of the healthcare systems.
You see a situation like this, you send in a crises response team to figure out what the hell is going on and within hours you identify someone in leadership there that can do the job, put them in charge and get rid of anyone who is standing in the way.
Oh, I agree, the data, what can be trusted is nothing to
to be optimistic about and there is no way to rationalize
the numbers we are seeing.
I meant more is there an actual possibility of the “game
changer” or “silver bullet” that will let us off the hook
(relatively) easy, like:
1. a wonder-drug cocktail,
2. a mutation that renders CV harmless, etc.
I don’t want to encourage false hope or magical thinking,
I am just wondering if there are other “known unknowns”
(to paraphrase Don Rumsfeld) we haven’t considered with
CV and how long we’re going to be dealing with it.
This is a good story on many levels—but they used a Kaiser source so they didn’t get the full story on how Kaiser is handling the mask shortage:
I think we are in trial and error mode on treatments and vaccines...
It may also turn out that some treatments work better for some people than others—there may not be one “magic bullet”.
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