And we trust what China has to f***ing say about anything now? Why?
FReegards!
Posted on 03/25/2020 6:42:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
In a prime example of why President Trump shouldn’t be endorsing any unproven potential treatments for the novel coronavirus behind the current global pandemic, a new small-scale study by researchers in China indicates that the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine actually isn’t any more effective than standard, existing best practice for conventional care of patients with the virus.
The study, which included 30 patients with a control of 15 who received no treatment, with the other half being treated with hydroxychloroquine, showed that there was a statistically insignificant difference in the number of patients who tested negative for the drug after a week. During the study, those who received conventional treatment were provided anti-virals that are currently recommended for use in China, including Iopinavir and ritonavir, and after a week, 13 of the 15 control patients showed no sign of the virus, while 14 of the 15 who were treated with hydroxychloroquine showed the same.
An earlier small-scale study of 30 patients by French researchers published last week had shown indication that hydroxychloroquine used alone was effective in reducing the duration and severity of COVID-19, while using it in combination with an antibiotic called azithromycin increased its effectiveness. The study has been criticized by some for its methods – which is the entire purpose of scientific study and medical research, wherein people submit their studies for peer review prior to publication, and then other researchers challenge their assumptions, results and findings.
Trump is obviously not a scientist or medical professional, and yet he has been touting the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine during the White House’s daily coronavirus task force press briefings, and on Twitter, including when he called for them to be “put in use IMMEDIATELY” on March 21.
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And we trust what China has to f***ing say about anything now? Why?
FReegards!
What have you got to lose?
Your health, your life, that’s all. By all means, you WAIT for FDA approval for use on Covid-19, I’ll take it right away if needed, WHY NOT?
I bet they’re more than that.
I think it's important to underscore the Chinese "control" group were getting anti-virals which may not be the standard treatment elsewhere.
At this point I'd trust little coming from China
Correct. As I said I believe zero information that comes from china. china lies about almost everything, there’s no reason to beleive anything they put out. I’ll believe the European scientists and their research and studies, but I won’t believe the chinese about anything, ever.
“The study, which included 30 patients with a control of 15 who received no treatment, with the other half being treated with hydroxychloroquine, showed that there was a statistically insignificant difference in the number of patients who tested negative for the drug after a week. During the study, those who received conventional treatment were provided anti-virals that are currently recommended for use in China, including Iopinavir and ritonavir, and after a week, 13 of the 15 control patients showed no sign of the virus, while 14 of the 15 who were treated with hydroxychloroquine showed the same.”
Stupid, misleading, idiotic article.
The first part of this paragraph says that the control group received no treatment. Later on it says the control group “ received conventional treatment were provided anti-virals that are currently recommended for use in China, including Iopinavir and ritonavir”
The Chinese small study was also not peer reviewed and blessed by the medical intelligentsia.
Also see my previous post above.
Nope, the writer needed a competent editor. That second ‘graph is a dog’s breakfast. Typical half assed news writer.
At least in treating cutaneous lupus, these drugs don’t work as well in smokers. How many smokers in China study?
[I bet they’re more than that.]
https://www.drugs.com/price-guide/lopinavir-ritonavir
https://www.drugs.com/price-guide/ritonavir
https://www.drugs.com/price-guide/hydroxychloroquine
https://www.drugs.com/price-guide/azithromycin
Gimme an old drug, side effects known, over the new ones that cause growth of a third arm out of your ear.
This unofficial ‘test/study’ (linked below) proves otherwise, yeah?
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3828127/posts
No - the author ignores that it is just as effective, and concludes:
“Trump is obviously not a scientist or medical professional, and yet he has been touting the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine during the White House’s daily coronavirus task force press briefings...”
I do wonder what Techcrunch's basis is for saying those two drugs are "conventional treatment" in China. I've seen they were doing a study with those drugs, that's it.
The moron who wrote that drivel is obviously infected with TDS.
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