Posted on 03/20/2020 9:39:27 AM PDT by CptnObvious
Carona Nazis Close the Beach for Walking here on the West Coast of Florida away from crowded areas.
We talked with a man who said he shouldn't have brought his beach chair as they only allow you to walk in the morning. This was far away from any crowded areas.
My wife, who is an ER Nurse on our 25th anniversary, can't believe they have taken it to this extreme. We said to one another "Will they shut it down for the next Flu seasons to come"??
We were going to go to Bora Bora this Thursday, but the doctors were not going to sign anything without a form and the Tahitian government didn't provide a form to satisfy their requirement for a Health Certification within 5 days of travel. We are glad we didn't go since the State Department's latest advice.
We recovered some of our Bora Bora travel arrangements and thought we could rent a beach home with beach access away from the crowded areas. No such luck.
The good thing is that the home we did get has a enclosed pool spa, and a salt water lake with some very pretty birds visiting. Saw an osprey hunting in the shallows and yesterday two Roseate Spoonbills flew in. This is our contribution to "Sheltering in Place".
We brought plenty of food with us just in case, but this hysteria is getting out of hand.
Will they shut down everything for the Flu Season next year?? There are far far more deaths from it despite the flu vaccines. Are we going to stop elections, schools and everything next year??
Thank you Corona Nazis for stopping beach access and watching the sundowns. We will just find another spot to enjoy them and thumb our noses at you (without touching our faces).
On our drive here, a Burger King had a sign "Closed for Social Distancing" close to the chairs. Ah the Joys of Socialism. Just wait for the Thought Police and the Adjustment Advisers.
CO
Bay should be good.
“South Korea has been using the malaria drug and quarantine.”
Right, and I think quarantines were an important part of their success in controlling the outbreak (vs. some who posit that quarantining was of no value).
“China’s claims are always suspect.”
Yes they are, but I don’t suspect their claims that they quarantined people - or that it provided some benefit in controlling the outbreak.
When I was a boy there was nothing between Destin and Panama City Beach except for Seagrove had maybe 10 houses in a little motel and the same at grayton beach
Fort Walton boomed then
My dad loved to take me there 63-75
Fishing
The worm turned on US 98 mid 80s.
It’s that way all over Florida now
Developed
Boca Grande
Marco
Hobe sound
Fernadina
Navarre
Very little old school white shell driveway Florida left
Destin has one motel then a holiday inn
You are correct. This is not the flu
But sit in a quiet place and think about it.
We have vaccines for just about all kinds of flu.
We have no vaccine for wu flu. That is scary.
Until you realize that even with no vaccine, the death rate is lower for wu flu than for the seasonal varieties we have suffered for the last 80 years in spite of the vaccinations..
I am not taking it lightly. I am in the high risk group, but we must learn to live with risk.
At my age, having seen some really bad wrecks, I still drive on 8 lane interstates with a tractor trailer so close behind that at 75 or 80 MPH there is no way he would miss me in a sudden jamup.
There are just some things you do.
“We have vaccines for just about all kinds of flu.”
Of which in most years they miss the strain and the flu vaccines does no good. Most people do not get a flu shot, either.
Oh, I do know it. What is your point? What is your argument?
Do you have a link for that comment?
Go research the flu vaccine instead of just thinking a vaccine means 100% effectiveness and 100% population use. That’s just ignorant.
S. Korea’s COVID-19 testing capability most effective, powerful arsenal in its virus fight
https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20200320006700320?section=national/national
Good luck to you and your family, OC.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/fluvaxview/coverage-1819estimates.htm
Basically for young children, the years vary, but are in the 60 to 65% range.
For 18 years and older, some years 45% and some in the 30% range.
Those numbers are sufficient to have an impact (reduction) on the death numbers.
So it does indicate that the seasonal flu has a higher death rate and if no vaccines were available, the death rate for seasonal flu would be higher.
And yes, several years they have missed the right strain, but even so I have seen statements to the effect that in some of those years the vaccine was estimated to be 20% effective.
Of course we will never know whether than estimate was accurate.
To: datura”Ok flu bro, Washington has had 56 die of this crap in the last 3 weeks. THAT IS TWO YEARS OF NORMAL FLU DEATHS HERE. IN THREE F_CKING WEEKS.”
I decided to check your math.
The prior two years combined, CDC says 95,000 died from flu in USA. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html
Washington has 8 million of US population of 330 million, which is 2.4 percent.
Multiplying 95,000 flu deaths by 2.4 percent is 2280 people in Washington dead from flu in 2 years.
58 / 2280 x (365 x 2) = 18.5 days The 58 who died in washington from coronavirus is roughly how many would have died in 18.5 days, if the flu was evenly distributed across country.
so your estimate is off by more than 50 times
91 posted on 03/18/2020 10:27:33 PM PDT by Mount Athos
Thank you for that. People really struggle with math and the use of false math in this Corona thing has reached absurd levels.
I just copied and pasted it.
I do understand it though!
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