...that's scar tissue, which probably won't heal 100%
Posted on 03/20/2020 8:42:15 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
With symptoms ranging from a gasping death to nothing at all, one has to wonder whether COVID-19 is a super flu or a mild cold. Have we ruined our economy over nothing or saved millions of people from death? If COVID-19 is a mild cold, how did we mistake it for a super flu?
There are over 200 different viruses that cause the common cold. The most common are rhinoviruses, coronaviruses, adenoviruses, and respiratory syncytial viruses. The average person gets one to three colds per year, and due to the large variety of viruses responsible, there is no vaccine. Influenza is another common respiratory virus. Cold or flu, respiratory viruses present similar symptoms and follow the same life cycle.
Launched into the environment from their current host, they might survive long enough to find another. Typically by inhalation, they might make their way to the mucosa. They might make it past the wall of mucus to the underlying cells, where they might manage to infect one. Irritated by the intruder, the cells send an alarm and macrophages soon begin the equivalent of carpet bombing. The release of cytotoxic chemicals causes tissue damage and even more irritation. The mucosa releases more mucus, filling the sinuses and dripping into the lungs. Cilia move mucus out of the lungs up to the throat, where most of it makes its way to the stomach, but coughing is also an option, launching virus into the environment.
The more specialized 'T' and 'B' lymphocytes make their way to the infection where they test the infectious agent to determine if they are a good match. Once a 'B' cell matches close enough, the precision strikes start. The adaptive immune system further alters its genetics to make an even better match.
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Most coronaviruses cause colds. This one causes a cold on steroids for some people, up to and including death. Hot states like New York are taking appropriate action. Other states with only a few counties affected are overreacting.
I skimmed a news story yesterday that said South Dakota ran out of tests. So therefore, if they shut down the state out of the usual “abundance of caution (TM)”, I can’t really blame them.
Official count, of course. I would just multiply the official case number by 10. Some countries are doing quite well keeping count (SK comes to mind), but others, not so much (including Red China - liars - and US).
Whether the response is warranted will be studied for decades. It will be very hard to show one way or the other.
I’m pretty sure that the only city SK cordoned off was Daegu, the epicenter of their outbreak. They might have shut down that cult church where it first spread, as well. But I haven’t heard of the massive shutdowns we’re experiencing over here. SK’s competence with keeping this virus down makes such actions effectively unnecessary.
I’m glad he’s getting better. Most people will get better, and some others will get better, but in a weakened state due to severe cases.
I agree, for most states. Abbott (TX) for example certainly acted way prematurely. Texas has 254 counties, most of them rural and lightly populated; the community spread certainly hasn't affected 3/4 of counties -- my own personal standard for shutting down a state. However, such actions are prudent for New York right now (most counties already affected) and maybe Washington, if the Seattle cluster has spread south and east.
I also had my own standard for countrywide shutdown: 3/4 of states being shut down. But because so many states jumped the gun with their shutdowns, I'm throwing that one right out the window. Feds should take no action in such a manner, period.
My daughter's been treating them in her ER for a week or so. Last count, her hospital's up to 18 so far who have tested positive.
Oh, and thanks to US letting China be the prime manufacturer, they're short on N95 surgical masks. Staff are issued a single mask per person, per day.
...that's scar tissue, which probably won't heal 100%
Yep. Another stupid blog from American (Un) Thinker.
Mild common colds do not put many people in ICU and in critical condition. A common cold does not sicken people to the point of being down for 2 weeks or more or knock out such number of medical personnel and first responders or cause alarming shortages in PPE and ventilators.
1,939 new New York cases overnight. Testing results coming back.
18% of cases are requiring hospitalization.
#just the flu
Neither.
This is a first strike from our enemy China.
I don’t know anyone with the virus but there were supposed to be two at one of our local hospitals. On Monday, they listed my state as having 10 cases.
Another friend was with the guy a week ago Tuesday and with me a week ago Thursday. He started showing symptoms on Friday. Has had very mild symptoms except for a splitting headache and sore throat. He was tested Monday but they told him yesterday it will be next week before he gets results. So here we sit, in quarantine. We would likely be sick by now if we were going to get a strong case. My husband and I (and our kids) have all had sore throats. The kids (in their 30s) have had headaches but all of us are fine.
I agree that the author is an idiot. He claims-
“If the start date was a month or more before December 31st, then we are not talking about 7,000 cases in the U.S. starting in early February, but 6,000,000 to 10,000,000 cases starting in late December”
What shred of evidence is there that there are 6 to 10 million cases of this in the US now? A better estimate is that we have about 30mm cases of the seasonal flu in the US every year. However those cases DO NOT ALL OCCUR AT THE SAME TIME. Assuming the 30mm cases are spread out over 6 winter months, and that they last 2 weeks on average, we get
2.5mm people in the US with the flu at any particular time. We know from the testing (about 150,000 tests- including private labs not reporting the number of negative results) resulting in 15,000 Covid19 cases) that about 10 percent of people who have flu symptoms severe enough to warrant testing have Covid19. So if there are 2.5mm with symptoms right now, which is average for the US in winter, there are probably 250,000 with Covid19. If the fatality rate is 1% then we will expect 2,500 deaths, if we stop spreading the virus now. That is 10% of annual flu deaths, so not a reason to panic. However if we don’t stop the spread, we will have 2,500 deaths every two weeks from Covid19, and the percentage of flu which is Covid19 could go from 10% to 100%, and you get 250,000 deaths. Its a matter of how many additional cases will occur, which is a function of how long it takes to stop it.
https://covidtracking.com/data/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html
An illness has been going around at my work since late February. Today one of the majority of us who have been sick for several weeks with mild symptoms, tested positive. As far as I know, this person was only tested because they may have had direct contact a week or so ago with someone else who recently tested positive-- it is not because they have suddenly developed serious symptoms. I strongly suspect all of us in my workplace who have had this mystery illness (the few who bothered to go to doc were negative for flu, one was positive for strep though) have been fighting Covid-19 and just didn't know it. Symptoms were variable but not severe, most had moderate fever for a couple of days initially, some had sore throat/sinus pain/headache initially, but fever only lasted a day or two, then just a lingering fatigue, a mild dry cough, mild bronchitis/sinusitis that hangs on forever. I actually felt better the last two days than I have in weeks, like my strength is coming back, but what I have had is a mild illness. I've been instructed to not come to work for two weeks and self-isolate and watch for serious symptoms; if symptomatic I am to self-quarantine and seek medical help.
Italy is significantly older, significantly more smoking, and 1/4 the hospital beds. It’s not remotely the same thing. Look at the confirmed death rate in Germany, Sweden, Belgium etc its very low. Then divide all the death rates by 3-20 for assymptomatic carriers and this is not that bad
The fatality rate is not 1%. The confirmed death rate is about 1%. The actual death rate is likely significantly lower due to assymptomatic cases
“taly is significantly older, significantly more smoking, and 1/4 the hospital beds. It’s not remotely the same thing. Look at the confirmed death rate in Germany, Sweden, Belgium etc its very low.”
I hear this all the time and it’s poorly attributed. Italy has an older population but they are being ravaged primarily due to the ethnic Chinese population in the six-figures they did not shut down on the Chinese Lunar New Year. Tons of people going to and from China during that time.
As for the other countries; the figures are not statistically relevant at this time. Talk to us on the other side of the curve.
No reason to get all pie in the sky right now. We are yet to face the momentous challenge before us.
Here, look at the chart on Wikipedia with # of cases and deaths by country
Germany - 53 deaths out of 18,756 cases or 0.28%
Austria - 6 deaths out of 2,388 cases or 0.25%.
Most countries are in the 0.5-1% range, and that doesn't count assymptomatic in ANY of these.
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