Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

When Will the Coronavirus Be Controlled, and How Will We Know?
PJ Media ^ | 03/19/2020 | Charlie Martin

Posted on 03/19/2020 7:48:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

This is a question on a lot of people's minds. Sadly, I won't be able to give an exact date because the actual date will depend on a lot of other things, like if everyone has 237 rolls of toilet paper stashed behind the couch. But we have a good way to talk about it; however, warning, there will be math.

Here's the real answer, and no it really doesn't depend on how many rolls of toilet paper you have. The virus will be contained when R0 is less than 1. That's what to look for: R0 < 1.

"Fine," you say, "what is R0?"

R0, usually pronounced "R-naught," is basic reproduction number for any infectious disease. It's not really complicated: for every person who has a disease, some number of people will contract the disease. That number is R0. So, if on average one case of coronavirus infection leads to three more cases, then R0 = 3.

That doesn't mean that each person with the virus will infect exactly three more people, though. It's a statistical number — basically an average. So an R0 of, say, 2.2 is meaningful — you're not really saying that each person infects two whole people and 0.2 others, you're saying that five infected people will be expected to infect 11 others.

While the number isn't complicated, computing it is. Imagine you're a coronavirus waiting for your big break. You've infected one person, but there's nothing more important in life for a virus than to go viral. Infectivity is like dating — your first challenge as a hot young coronavirus is that not everyone you meet is open to dating you. The second challenge is that this means if you want to become viral, you have to get out and meet lots of people.

(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: control; coronavirus; limbaughwillknow; potus; talkradioexperts; trusttrump
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-38 next last

5 people infecting 11 more — R0 of 2.2
1 posted on 03/19/2020 7:48:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Who / what agency is enforcing the lockdown ?


2 posted on 03/19/2020 7:50:10 AM PDT by no-to-illegals ( Liberals, leftists, Rinos, moslems, illegals, lamestream media. All want America to fail and die)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

FROM A PAPER BY by John Holland Jones at Stanford University:

https://web.stanford.edu/~jhj1/teachingdocs/Jones-on-R0.pdf

If we look at that mathematically, this comes down to three factors.

These three factors are:

1. transmissibility — the number of infections per contact, or (infections/contact), which we’ll call t

2. contact — how many contacts there are on average between an infected individual and susceptible individuals over time. So (contacts/time), which we’ll call c.

3. duration — how long someone who has become infected remains able to transmit the virus. So this is (time/infection) and we’ll call that d.

The number of new cases, R0, is proportionate to the transmissibility, times the number of contacts during the time it’s transmissible, times the length of time it is transmissible.


3 posted on 03/19/2020 7:50:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Chinobyl

What is the cost of lies?


4 posted on 03/19/2020 7:51:17 AM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
For the mathematically inclined:

R0 ∝ t × c × d

None of these three numbers are things we can directly measure, especially in the course of an epidemic spread, but we can take other information and estimate it using models. The key point here is that R0 by definition represents the number of new cases following an individual case.

That turns the progress of an epidemic into a familiar equation:

number of new cases = number of starting cases × R0n

where n is the number of "generations".

If that doesn't look familiar, look at your credit card bill. It's the same way interest is calculated — (1+r)n. R0 here is just principle and interest.
5 posted on 03/19/2020 7:53:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: no-to-illegals

RE: Who / what agency is enforcing the lockdown ?

This is being enforced at the STATE and CITY and MUNICIPALITY level.


6 posted on 03/19/2020 7:54:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

As soon as we have communism the pressure will be off. /s


7 posted on 03/19/2020 7:55:02 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Look at the number of deaths occurring each day. Yesterday it was 25 . Over the previous several days the variance was a couple of deaths. Today the number of new deaths is only 17. If it had been 37 it would indicate the data is settling down. It didn’t. The signal is still just noise, in my opinion. So, will the number of new deaths tomorrow be 50 or 15? Nerve wracking.


8 posted on 03/19/2020 7:55:51 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Trump.Deplorable

China’s Chernobyl.


9 posted on 03/19/2020 7:56:27 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Question are being asked and all requests for enforcement is going to governor’s office but governor is yet to respond. Appears the lockdown is voluntary and no enforcement exists


10 posted on 03/19/2020 7:57:25 AM PDT by no-to-illegals ( Liberals, leftists, Rinos, moslems, illegals, lamestream media. All want America to fail and die)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad

Football season


11 posted on 03/19/2020 7:57:41 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Yes, epidemiology. No measure of “velocity”. Because every epidemic ever studied was retrospective. Now we desperately need a measure of velocity and not one with a lot of initegrals and Sigmas. The truest indicator I can think of is how many days until the number of dead each day doubles. That’s what I am watching.


12 posted on 03/19/2020 7:58:22 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

When ‘they’ decide


13 posted on 03/19/2020 7:58:59 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Everyone knows Hillary was corrupt, lied, destroyed documents, and influenced witnesses. Rat crime.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wastoute

This graph shows three cases: r0 = 0.9, R0 = 1.0, and R0 = 1.1. You can see that R0=1 is the magic number: if R0 is less than 1, the epidemic is dying out.

If we want to control an epidemic, then, what we need to do is reduce R0. We can do that by changing any of the three parameters of transmissibility, contact, and duration.


14 posted on 03/19/2020 8:00:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: DIRTYSECRET

Duck season.


15 posted on 03/19/2020 8:01:18 AM PDT by wally_bert (Spend like you were going to the electric chair!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad

Under Communism all industry will be nationalized

Under Green Communism your cars will be verbotten and your consumption and travel and energy use will be severely restricted, comrade.


16 posted on 03/19/2020 8:01:24 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Everyone knows Hillary was corrupt, lied, destroyed documents, and influenced witnesses. Rat crime.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Actually, I’d rather know when the hell the stores are gonna get paper products back on the shelves....


17 posted on 03/19/2020 8:01:30 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

I went to Med School. While infectious disease wasn’t my specialty I am aware. Thanks, though.


18 posted on 03/19/2020 8:01:48 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: DIRTYSECRET

2021?


19 posted on 03/19/2020 8:02:02 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Everyone knows Hillary was corrupt, lied, destroyed documents, and influenced witnesses. Rat crime.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: a fool in paradise

I think most people have been exposed already...


20 posted on 03/19/2020 8:02:38 AM PDT by Hojczyk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-38 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson