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New York state coronavirus cases soar to about 1,700, hospitalizing 19%
cnbc ^ | MAR 17 2020 | Berkeley Lovelac e Jr. Noah Higgins-Dunn

Posted on 03/17/2020 8:06:56 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19

New York officials say the state’s coronavirus total has jumped to 1,700, with at least 19% hospitalized. They said the number of cases will continue to rise as the state receives more test results. New York has 53,000 hospital beds and 3,000 ICU beds, far short of what state health officials are predicting will be needed, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said.

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To: RomanSoldier19

“not good”

Two of the most popular words around here :)

Ya know, it is what it is.

And it will pass one day.

All folks are doing is giving the powers that be MORE power to take over our lives because of the UTTER FEAR and being Scared like little kids in the dark we are feeding them.

How about starving them a litte.

Cause I got a shock for some of ya.

End of Day ISN’T COMING.

End of Freedom IS

And you won’t be meeting Jesus because of this wore than the flu virus.

You’ll be meeting government troops.

And they won’t be offering an eternity of salvation.

Just what seems like an eternity of suffering.


81 posted on 03/17/2020 9:27:38 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: CaptainK; gas_dr

Probably a majority of them? I would imagine if you are having the cough, fever, headaches that are typical of COVID-19 then they would say “home care”. Only hospitalized for IV’s (hi-dose steroids, etc.) and intubation/ventilator. They say COVID-19 turns into viral pneumonia not bacterial pneumonia so antibiotics won’t help you. At a certain point the intubation/ventilator patients will be on the regular ward as the ICU fills up? Freeper “Gas_dr” may have more on this topic (anesthesiologist needed for an intubation??)


82 posted on 03/17/2020 9:27:38 PM PDT by Drago
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To: LeonardFMason
3,000 ICU beds.

Coronavirus patients ideally should be put in negative pressure rooms to reduce the risk to others. But at least in an ICU, as many of them will require respirators/intubation/ECMO.

83 posted on 03/17/2020 9:27:55 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Wissa
and how many just because the hospitals can make huge amounts of money by renting out beds by the day

I’m trying to look at this with a healthy and balanced level of concern and skepticism. But that sounds like a real stretch to me. I’ve seen hospitals gearing up and personally know many who work there. The LAST thing they want is more patients. Especially now.
84 posted on 03/17/2020 9:29:15 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

I read an article earlier, the Comfort and Mercy are set up for high numbers of trauma patients, not infectious disease. Lots of shared bed spaces. The idea was they would be used to handle trauma cases, freeing up the regular hospitals for the WuFlu cases.


85 posted on 03/17/2020 9:29:27 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Sacajaweau

Agreed on what you said specifically about NY, too. There are many. But some of the other states have been focusing more on keeping people calm than finding out how many cases they have. We’ll see if this comment is in the ballpark soon enough.


86 posted on 03/17/2020 9:30:29 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Jane Long
First...You DO realize that NY already runs at 80% capacity in the (3,000 beds, TOTAL, for the state) ICU beds, BEFORE any coronavirus patients, right?

The article says 19% of the 1,700 cases are "hospitalized". NOT all occupying ICU beds. So of the 323 patients (19% of 1,700), how many are just in regular beds, not ICU, no special care, just being checked on by a nurse occasionally?

87 posted on 03/17/2020 9:32:19 PM PDT by Wissa ("Accidents don't happen to people who take accidents as a personal insult." - Michael Corleone)
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To: Secret Agent Man

That’s so health care executives can by second houses for their third mistress; and so people from all over Latin America can come here illegally and use the ER as a primary care facility.


88 posted on 03/17/2020 9:32:53 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Drago

Somebody posted that 65 are in IC which means that of the 19% that are hospitalize (323) 3.8% (65) are in IC.

If my math is right.


89 posted on 03/17/2020 9:36:57 PM PDT by CaptainK ('No collusion, no obstruction, he's a leaker')
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To: Wissa
How many of the 18% are hospitalized because it is necessary, and how many just because the hospitals can make huge amounts of money by renting out beds by the day?

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Maybe at first, but as the more serious cases roll in (intubation/ventilator needed) then those with less severe symptoms will be sent home for home care/quarantine...then hospitals can make even bigger $$$ off ICU type cases. Not going with the "we can make more $$" theory...hospitals average 85-100% occupancy rates during this time of year anyway and are running on razor thin profit margins even at full capacity (2.5%).

90 posted on 03/17/2020 9:37:05 PM PDT by Drago
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To: SoCal Pubbie

“No one is saying it’s “just the flu”, bro.”

Someone on a thread a short while ago called it “a cold that gives some elderly people pneumonia”.


91 posted on 03/17/2020 9:37:54 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: mmichaels1970; HamiltonJay

The testing is mainly for implementing restrictions in hot spots to stop the virus from disabling or killing a large portion of the population. That would hurt the economy.


92 posted on 03/17/2020 9:39:46 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: RomanSoldier19

They should Wuhanize NYC now before millions of crazy liberals try to escape their utopia.


93 posted on 03/17/2020 9:40:28 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Wissa

Also in the article...

...They estimate the state will need at least 55,000 hospital beds and between 18,600 to 37,200 ICU beds at the peak of the outbreak....

NY has a TOTAL of 53,000 hospital beds and 3,000 ICU beds.

Do the math.


94 posted on 03/17/2020 9:40:47 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: Karl Spooner

I imagine LOTS of them have escaped....they’ve seen the numbers/averages, for hospital beds.

Prayers, for all.


95 posted on 03/17/2020 9:41:49 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: CaptainK; gas_dr

Yep, but when things get “real”/overcrowded in the ICU can very serious patients go into regular beds/rooms and be intubated/on a ventilator? Italy was re-making surgery suites into quarantine /ventilator rooms due to the demand/crunch.


96 posted on 03/17/2020 9:42:21 PM PDT by Drago
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To: familyop
The testing is mainly for implementing restrictions in hot spots to stop the virus from disabling or killing a large portion of the population. That would hurt the economy.

I don’t disagree. I just take issue with what I feel is people being mislead into thinking that 19% of people who have it or get it will be hospitalized. To my knowledge, it is 19% of the people whose conditions were severe enough to warrant the test.

We’re concerned enough without misleading statistics.
97 posted on 03/17/2020 9:45:00 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Magic Fingers

Technically, a Coronavirus is in fact the cause of many cases of the common cold. Also factual is that for those aged 15 to 44, the fatality rate was 0.5%, though it might have been as low as 0.1% or as high as 1.3%. For people 45 to 64, the fatality rate was also 0.5%, with a possible low of 0.2% and a possible high of 1.1%. For those over 64, it was 2.7%, with a low and high estimate of 1.5% and 4.7%.

The chance of serious illness from coronavirus infection in younger people was so low, the scientists estimate a fatality rate of zero.

Since it’s an upper respiratory disease, the description you cited was pretty accurate, if a bit flippant. I am not saying we should go on as if there’s no danger. Prudent measures are necessary. Burning down the house to kill the termites is not.


98 posted on 03/17/2020 9:46:11 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: RomanSoldier19
3000 beds, not good

Not every patient needs to be in ICU. They can be in normal rooms in isolation. The ones in ICU are the criticals. According to the up-to-date statistics, there are a total of 12 serious or critical current cases nationwide.

It's more likely people are hospitalized for observation as a precaution rather than placed into critical care.

Also, these are statewide numbers not just New York City, so not every patient is going to one hospital.

The lack of demographic statistics causes people to jump to conclusions that may or may not necessarily be true.

And maybe I'm not clued in but this is the first time I've ever heard of "Gothamist" as a source. They may be perfectly legit but I take every article now a days with a grain of salt. Especially so when a simple article requires the input of 3 reporters. But that's just me.

Regards.

99 posted on 03/17/2020 9:46:34 PM PDT by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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To: RomanSoldier19
the education lobby pulls in ALL the money when the rats give out the goodies....same in my state of Washington....

state needs money....the first thing they do is tell the drs and hospitals that they can only charge so much....

when our teachers get on average 16%raises in one fell swoop, you know something is not going to balance...its usually the health care dollars although the state will never admit it...

100 posted on 03/17/2020 9:46:46 PM PDT by cherry
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