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Not sure I fit in here anymore ...

Posted on 03/16/2020 8:43:03 AM PDT by GulfMan

Before you look up my account and call me a noob I have been here since Clinton was President, just under a different user name. I haven't posted in a week or so, I've just been reading and lurking. It has really been an awakening recently to say the least.

I am surprised and maybe even a little shocked by my fellow Freepers. I really kind of thought we were all kind-of like minded (ya, I know, conservatives).

We have the "FluBro's" who are in total denial of what is happening world-wide. It reminds me of the other party and their inability to see and or face the truth and I am just so surprised by that. They are the exact kind of people Italy is warning us about in a new article today. In the fact, the entire nation of Italy scoffed and laughed it off, now they warning us not be like them. I think there are too many in this country like that however, I just spoke to a real estate person in Gulf Shores who said the place was booming, as grandparents/parents were taking their kids down for vacations since school was cancelled. Not a clue.

We have the folks supporting the guys from Tennessee who drove around the country and bought up all of the supplies that people would want to protect themselves from the virus only to list those products on Amazon at outrageous prices were completely justified in the name of free enterprise. Imagine being the type of person that sees a crisis and their plan is to exploit people for money during those times, and then to have other people support them?

We have those who say they will refuse to quarantine and won't be told what to do and want all kinds of places to remain open. It's like cantankerous old coots who are stuck in their ways and feel their freedom trumps everyone and everything around them, they owe their brother nothing. I'm embarrassed in part to be in the same boat as many on this forum. The constant arguing between those that know this is a serious situation and the FluBro's is tiresome.

That said, this is the best site for following the Coronavirus outbreak as people are local everywhere and sharing local news we wouldn't get anywhere else. I will continue to lurk for sure.

I hope everyone stays safe and pray this passes quickly, that as few as possible die, and the economy rebounds strongly, and we get back to living the American dream.

God Bless


TOPICS: Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: falseflagfreepers; newsflash; opus; sogetlost; tennessee; wellbye; youdont
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To: Jonty30

141 posted on 03/16/2020 11:10:23 AM PDT by zeebee
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To: GulfMan
The constant arguing between those that know this is a serious situation and the FluBro's is tiresome.

"People disagree on an online forum and I don't like that."

Well stop the GD presses.

142 posted on 03/16/2020 11:12:08 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Plans are worthless, but planning is everything. - Dwight Eisenhower, 1957)
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To: GulfMan
“Imagine being the type of person that sees a crisis and their plan is to exploit people”

That's the foundation of all human interaction. What fantasy world do you live in?

(Say you're hungry and someone offers you a deal for an ear if corn. That's offensive? Bye girlie.)

143 posted on 03/16/2020 11:12:33 AM PDT by coaster123 (XLV-MMXX)
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To: GulfMan

Any where and any time you have a collecting place for human type people, you also have a collecting place for asshats.

It’s part of dealing with human type people.

By the time we reach “grown up” status, we’re supposed to have figured that out for ourselves.

You let the idjits get you down.

That’s a personal fail.


144 posted on 03/16/2020 11:12:58 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: zeebee

Took me a minute but now I can’t stop laughing.

Good one.


145 posted on 03/16/2020 11:15:06 AM PDT by deport
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To: GulfMan
The site has been flooded with propaganda talking points for some time now. It started with just a few, and people would destroy their talking points. Now there are so many and are just nasty, I just roll my eyes and move on.

This was the best conservative site on the internet for decades and now it is hard to take at times because of the rinos and bs liberal talking points pretending to be conservative.

Go look at how many times I told people how to calculate the real death rate of the virus here, not the let's not cause panic death rate being fed people which has people saying it is just the flu. Hint: real number is only those used are those who have passed through the whole cycle...dead and recovered. Just using that you can go country to country calculating and see the virus has mutated and there are at least to versions. Countries shutting down the world have the Italian version.

146 posted on 03/16/2020 11:19:28 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: GulfMan
We have the "FluBro's" who are in total denial of what is happening world-wide. It reminds me of the other party and their inability to see and or face the truth and I am just so surprised by that.

So you are right and everyone who disagrees with you is wrong...Now there's some critical thinkin'...

147 posted on 03/16/2020 11:21:35 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: GulfMan
The constant arguing between those that know this is a serious situation and the FluBro's is tiresome.

There's a lot of interesting back and forth from both sides. You should carefully consider some of the opinions that you disagree with instead of mindlessly calling people "FluBro" because you disagree with them.

148 posted on 03/16/2020 11:26:20 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Still funny the second time


149 posted on 03/16/2020 11:28:46 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Mr Rogers

My husband and my daughter are high risk for complications. I understand people having to work. I don’t understand people going to bars and restaraunts and traveling for fun.


150 posted on 03/16/2020 11:30:07 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: GulfMan

On any wide open forum, some people are going to post statements you find disgusting and don’t want to be associated with. We have the choice of explaining why they are wrong (not always worth the trouble), focusing our time on subjects and posts we find worthwhile, or surrendering the site to the worst idiots.


151 posted on 03/16/2020 11:30:26 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: SaxxonWoods
That’s interesting. In the cemetery in Texas where some of my family rests, there are many graves from 1918. Most show dates of birth/death indicating infants or toddlers.

I suppose you think you are making a clever point, but it’s really not. The majority of deaths that occurred during the Spanish flu were from secondary bacterial pneumonia and sepsis due to lack of antibiotics and sanitary living conditions. Also, there are 0 deaths from coronavirus of anyone below 9 years of age. Apple and oranges.

152 posted on 03/16/2020 11:31:02 AM PDT by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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To: Shethink13

Well, we do not know the actual causes of death because they are not published

Early on it was noted that most of the virus related deaths were in fact pneumonia. That ceased in order to kill President Trump


153 posted on 03/16/2020 11:34:48 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Lady Heron
Go look at how many times I told people how to calculate the real death rate of the virus here, not the let's not cause panic death rate being fed people which has people saying it is just the flu. Hint: real number is only those used are those who have passed through the whole cycle...dead and recovered.

You're just as wrong with your "real number" death rate.

The final death rate will also include people who are sick and who have yet to be tested and it will include the number of people who don't report.

You're doing exactly what you are complaining about.

154 posted on 03/16/2020 11:35:42 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: sport

I think we can surmise what happened by the story of being here long ago, but having to create a new account. This is a never Trumper that got frustrated and left - probably did an opus under the previous account about how he couldn’t believe people on FR were supporting Trump. Now he has decided to come in and start impugning Trump because he sees a window with this “crisis”.


155 posted on 03/16/2020 11:36:02 AM PDT by Codeflier (FearRepublic.com - keeping the media panic narrative going 24/7 to finally bring down Trump)
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To: hollywood12345

or even healthy people under 75 were dropping dead in significant ways then maybe.


Previously healthy people under 75 are dropping dead in significant numbers internationally. Less so here because not many have died here yet.

Italy is a mess. France is headed that way. Yes, it’s mostly old (75+) people, but nowhere close to entirely. I haven’t found updated CDC stats, but as it was it was proportioned like this (forget the raw numbers, 10% is probably near worst-case if we weren’t quarantining).

*10% infection rate
320,000,000
Age count CDC chart .. .. Dead
20s 37.3M *0.1% ... ... 3,500
30s 43.2M *0.2% ... ... 9,000
40s 42.5M *0.4% ... ..17,000
50s 31.1M *1.3% ... .. 40,000
60s 20.3M *3.6% ... .. 73,000
70s 16.3M *8.0% .. ...130,000
80+ 9.2M *14 % .. ....128,000
... ... ... ... ... . 404,000


156 posted on 03/16/2020 11:40:59 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: GulfMan

Who were you before and why did you have to come back with a new handle? Were you a previous Opus Out?


157 posted on 03/16/2020 11:42:28 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: ReaganGeneration2

Unfortunately, so far, consistent and accurate facts and data are lacking in this novel situation. We all need to realize that.


Yep. Though we can analyze what is available, and check them to see if they are obviously wrong, and see if they have a correlation to what is right even if inaccurate. It isn’t easy though beyond some of the obviously wrong things.


158 posted on 03/16/2020 11:47:04 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: G Larry
Many of the best minds left FR in the days of banning any criticism of Trump.

Really, who?

I'm impressed that you know 'the best minds'.

159 posted on 03/16/2020 11:50:06 AM PDT by USS Alaska (NUKE THE MOOSELIMB, TERRORISTS, NOW!)
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To: GulfMan

What was the screen name you used since the Clinton days so we know who you are....


160 posted on 03/16/2020 11:53:22 AM PDT by GOPJ ( http://www.tinyurl.com/cvirusmap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfeZlKu8M7A)
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