Posted on 03/16/2020 8:43:03 AM PDT by GulfMan
Before you look up my account and call me a noob I have been here since Clinton was President, just under a different user name. I haven't posted in a week or so, I've just been reading and lurking. It has really been an awakening recently to say the least.
I am surprised and maybe even a little shocked by my fellow Freepers. I really kind of thought we were all kind-of like minded (ya, I know, conservatives).
We have the "FluBro's" who are in total denial of what is happening world-wide. It reminds me of the other party and their inability to see and or face the truth and I am just so surprised by that. They are the exact kind of people Italy is warning us about in a new article today. In the fact, the entire nation of Italy scoffed and laughed it off, now they warning us not be like them. I think there are too many in this country like that however, I just spoke to a real estate person in Gulf Shores who said the place was booming, as grandparents/parents were taking their kids down for vacations since school was cancelled. Not a clue.
We have the folks supporting the guys from Tennessee who drove around the country and bought up all of the supplies that people would want to protect themselves from the virus only to list those products on Amazon at outrageous prices were completely justified in the name of free enterprise. Imagine being the type of person that sees a crisis and their plan is to exploit people for money during those times, and then to have other people support them?
We have those who say they will refuse to quarantine and won't be told what to do and want all kinds of places to remain open. It's like cantankerous old coots who are stuck in their ways and feel their freedom trumps everyone and everything around them, they owe their brother nothing. I'm embarrassed in part to be in the same boat as many on this forum. The constant arguing between those that know this is a serious situation and the FluBro's is tiresome.
That said, this is the best site for following the Coronavirus outbreak as people are local everywhere and sharing local news we wouldn't get anywhere else. I will continue to lurk for sure.
I hope everyone stays safe and pray this passes quickly, that as few as possible die, and the economy rebounds strongly, and we get back to living the American dream.
God Bless
"People disagree on an online forum and I don't like that."
Well stop the GD presses.
That's the foundation of all human interaction. What fantasy world do you live in?
(Say you're hungry and someone offers you a deal for an ear if corn. That's offensive? Bye girlie.)
Any where and any time you have a collecting place for human type people, you also have a collecting place for asshats.
It’s part of dealing with human type people.
By the time we reach “grown up” status, we’re supposed to have figured that out for ourselves.
You let the idjits get you down.
That’s a personal fail.
Took me a minute but now I can’t stop laughing.
Good one.
This was the best conservative site on the internet for decades and now it is hard to take at times because of the rinos and bs liberal talking points pretending to be conservative.
Go look at how many times I told people how to calculate the real death rate of the virus here, not the let's not cause panic death rate being fed people which has people saying it is just the flu. Hint: real number is only those used are those who have passed through the whole cycle...dead and recovered. Just using that you can go country to country calculating and see the virus has mutated and there are at least to versions. Countries shutting down the world have the Italian version.
So you are right and everyone who disagrees with you is wrong...Now there's some critical thinkin'...
There's a lot of interesting back and forth from both sides. You should carefully consider some of the opinions that you disagree with instead of mindlessly calling people "FluBro" because you disagree with them.
Still funny the second time
My husband and my daughter are high risk for complications. I understand people having to work. I don’t understand people going to bars and restaraunts and traveling for fun.
On any wide open forum, some people are going to post statements you find disgusting and don’t want to be associated with. We have the choice of explaining why they are wrong (not always worth the trouble), focusing our time on subjects and posts we find worthwhile, or surrendering the site to the worst idiots.
I suppose you think you are making a clever point, but its really not. The majority of deaths that occurred during the Spanish flu were from secondary bacterial pneumonia and sepsis due to lack of antibiotics and sanitary living conditions. Also, there are 0 deaths from coronavirus of anyone below 9 years of age. Apple and oranges.
Well, we do not know the actual causes of death because they are not published
Early on it was noted that most of the virus related deaths were in fact pneumonia. That ceased in order to kill President Trump
You're just as wrong with your "real number" death rate.
The final death rate will also include people who are sick and who have yet to be tested and it will include the number of people who don't report.
You're doing exactly what you are complaining about.
I think we can surmise what happened by the story of being here long ago, but having to create a new account. This is a never Trumper that got frustrated and left - probably did an opus under the previous account about how he couldn’t believe people on FR were supporting Trump. Now he has decided to come in and start impugning Trump because he sees a window with this “crisis”.
or even healthy people under 75 were dropping dead in significant ways then maybe.
Italy is a mess. France is headed that way. Yes, it’s mostly old (75+) people, but nowhere close to entirely. I haven’t found updated CDC stats, but as it was it was proportioned like this (forget the raw numbers, 10% is probably near worst-case if we weren’t quarantining).
*10% infection rate
320,000,000
Age count CDC chart .. .. Dead
20s 37.3M *0.1% ... ... 3,500
30s 43.2M *0.2% ... ... 9,000
40s 42.5M *0.4% ... ..17,000
50s 31.1M *1.3% ... .. 40,000
60s 20.3M *3.6% ... .. 73,000
70s 16.3M *8.0% .. ...130,000
80+ 9.2M *14 % .. ....128,000
... ... ... ... ... . 404,000
Who were you before and why did you have to come back with a new handle? Were you a previous Opus Out?
Unfortunately, so far, consistent and accurate facts and data are lacking in this novel situation. We all need to realize that.
Really, who?
I'm impressed that you know 'the best minds'.
What was the screen name you used since the Clinton days so we know who you are....
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