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Johns Hopkins professor says up to 500,000 Americans have coronavirus
Yahoo Finance ^ | 4/13/2020 | Adriana Belmonte

Posted on 03/16/2020 7:20:27 AM PDT by Dr. Marten

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To: jerod

I don’t know. This reaction basically handcuffs people in their reaction to it.

The information here implies that a lot more people have it than are recorded as having it, which lowers the death rate...otherwise, we would see deaths occurring in much higher volumes than what is being seen.

If all these measures are taken place, and the virus is stopped before peak, even if the economy is severely damaged, this will be loudly proclaimed as the way to approach these things.

And I don’t think that is a good thing. Granted, we won’t know.

The China outbreak coincided with a peak time for flu season, and we are shutting down everything at what, for the last 36 years, has been the “tail” of the flu season at these latitudes, reliably starting up in November, and sputtering out in early to mid-March each year.

That means when the coronavirus started up here in the USA, it was already past peak.


101 posted on 03/16/2020 9:46:02 AM PDT by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Just post a disclaimer that you are not a doctor or epidemiologist but rather a flu hobbyist who is self entertaining at home with flu conspiracy. As far as I can tell doctors here are not reporting the issues you just mentioned. Any info coming out of China is suspect at best.

Again most people who contract coronavirus make a complete recovery. Old people are hardest hit as they are from the seasonal flu, pnuemonia and anything else that comes down the pike.


102 posted on 03/16/2020 10:26:23 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Just post a disclaimer that earlier studies fail to show significant ethnicity-based susceptibility to the virus (presumably based on the ACE2 binding site, as an early study with a small sample size suggested).

And that therefore, what is happening to Italy, might happen here if sufficient containment is not acheived.

One other possibility, which I have read of but which I could not find confirmation of, is that there are two strains of the virus, which had different R0 values and morbidity.

It might be that Wuhan (and Italy, which had a LOT of Chinese people in the hardest hit geographic regions, working in the textile and garment industry), had the nasty form; and South Korea and Japan, the milder one.

"Old people are hardest hit" is comforting pablum. Tell that to the survivors of the now-dead-of-coronavirus cardiologist at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia (Penn, an Ivy League School). As I pointed out earlier, both as an Ivy Leaguer, and as an MD -- and all the more so as a cardiac specialist -- the doctors would pull out all the stops to treat him. And he died of it.

Oh, btw, he was only 32.

103 posted on 03/16/2020 10:34:09 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Dr. Marten

Best and brightest, huh?


104 posted on 03/16/2020 10:45:50 AM PDT by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: windsorknot

And teaching the chirrens how to mafburbate.


105 posted on 03/16/2020 11:09:43 AM PDT by moonhawk (I need a new tagline.)
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To: cuban leaf
"In all seriousness, I’ve felt for a long time that once Trump is out - be it in 2021 or 2025 - we’re done."

I agree.

My neighbor says the only one he would trust to replace Trump is Rush Limbaugh. (That was before he had cancer)

106 posted on 03/16/2020 12:22:34 PM PDT by blam
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To: grey_whiskers

What’s happening in Italy has little or no chance to happen here for one reason all the people in Italy are old. Reason two they have a gazillion Chinese living there. Reason three their healthcare isn’t as good as ours. but feel free to continue to be hysterical.

Imma be at Twisted Taco for lunch tomorrow making merry and drinking a low quality house cab with my best friend. Then imma come home, wash my hands,take a shot of colloidal silver and a shot of elderberry tinture just in case I came into contact with one of the ten or so people in the whole state of GA that have corona virus.


107 posted on 03/16/2020 12:59:00 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Did you see that according to the San Francisco Chronicle, 6.7 million people in the San Fran Bay area are going to be more or less ordered to shelter in place? Within the last half-hour or so.

And, Canada has closed its borders to foreigners.

And six different casinos in Las Vegas are closing through *May*.

And, the President had another news conference in the last hour or so.

He's recommending that all food courts and restaurants be closed, and no gatherings of 10 or more people *anywhere*.

But you know better because *smug*.

108 posted on 03/16/2020 1:03:21 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

*Laughs*. I just told YOU about the Chinese in Italy.
Have a couple more mint juleps, it won’t make any difference to your posting quality at this point.


109 posted on 03/16/2020 1:05:17 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

If somebody told you to jump off a cliff you would probably do it. One person in Ga 67 with underlying conditions has died and you think we should shut down the state? Doesn’t that sound crazy even to you? Get a grip.


110 posted on 03/16/2020 1:11:20 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Oh, you’re in the grip of panic (normalcy bias *dying*) and projecting.

Go get a “personal back massager” and gently soothe your tension away.

(I know my trapezius muscles tighten up when I’m worried.)


111 posted on 03/16/2020 1:20:16 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
What you're the one hiding in your house telling everyone we are Italy. 😆
112 posted on 03/16/2020 1:54:56 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

My job ordered everyone home.


113 posted on 03/16/2020 2:00:28 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
Well you just sit there for the next couple months. I'll update you tomorrow on what's happening after i get back from luncn. 😆
114 posted on 03/16/2020 2:05:11 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

No need, I already knew you were out to lunch.


115 posted on 03/16/2020 2:20:17 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: dfwgator

Instead I think it is going to be a very ugly quarter and summer and may go further than that.


116 posted on 03/16/2020 3:49:17 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: Dr. Marten

Is it possible that some of us may have had it already earlier in the year? It’s kind of a stretch, since nobody in my family had any contact with any foreigners, but we all had a bad respiratory illness in January and February that we assumed was the flu. Only it didn’t seem like a typical influenza illness. It went right into a bad cough that lingered for weeks. I even had a chest xray done to be sure I didn’t have pneumonia. Just wondering...


117 posted on 03/16/2020 8:07:28 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (The Nazis were socialists, and all socialists turn into Nazis.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
um.. that means 498400 have it and didnt even get sick from it!

No, it means they didn't get tested for it.

118 posted on 03/16/2020 8:27:59 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: A_Former_Democrat

“So why aren’t we dying left and right?”

Why should we be? Your questions assumes a high death rate that is not a fact.


119 posted on 03/17/2020 5:44:40 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: LS

You are so right.
People aren’t dying of virus, they’re dying of fear,
stoked by the irresponsible media.


120 posted on 03/17/2020 8:08:34 AM PDT by b9
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