Posted on 03/15/2020 9:14:24 PM PDT by Teacher317
It may be irrational, it may be highly unlikely, it may be entirely disproportional to the actual impact thus far, but...
WHAT IF... What if Trump announces a 14-day US quarantine?
We Americans are a contrarian bunch... urban centers are not down for being patient or compliant... The Poor are not going to be able to survive for 14 days with their current resources, and they will not be able to survive a 14-day skip in their pay cycles...
True. We’ll find out soon.
Half of the people would break the quarantine!!!
And I should have noted it would be local or state orders. Not nationwide.
At our large Meijer store last night: No bread aside from a few loaves of small expensive oat bread, no regular bottled water aside from three pkgs expensive Evian type aspartame flavored junk, only a few small tubs of margarine (no Country crock we normally get) no ground beef anywhere, about 5 pkgs of paper towels left, NO TOILET PAPER lol. We were doing our regular weekly shopping but didn’t need the usual amount of stuff as I made a couple smaller trips over the last two weeks.
Rural vs city. Farm vs suburb. Its not putting one down for the other, at times one method works the other don’t. Right now if I have to I can drop a cow, deer, elk, moose, or ducks and geese. I can live, comfortably?? not really, but t I am still here. How we live is only important as how we use it. My neighbors have to eat too. It’s the country way.
The hospitals and care in the Lombardy region are nothing like that. Some of the wealthiest people in Europe go there for treatment. Anecdotes about trips to Europe “many years ago” are less than useful.
At my local Kro-Gar, The Food Barbarian, bread was pretty much there, most of the bottled water was gone, dairy had been restocked, beef and such were looking a bit down but still present, paper towels and toilet paper were completely MIA. What had changed since last Friday was the dairy restock after being rather depleted, the rice/beans/pasta were MIA or severely depleted and they had had a restock of Doritos and beer. As apparently people were raiding those last week.
I have unfortunately needed 10 surgeries throughout my lifetime. Several of those have been pretty major. *Thank God* they were all successfully completed in excellent, clean, modern hospitals in the United States.
And I didn't wait on any wait lists for those 10 surgeries, like most Europeans and Canadians do (unless they pay for private health insurance).
Your description of the Rome hospital could also correctly depict the 1980s VA Hospital in Los Angeles, pre-Reagan Reforms.
I suspect neither is true any more.
My view is that much of the news media and government wants to overreact. There is a false choice between doing nothing, which no one supports, or near martial law, as the only two options. Acting reasonably, with a lot of complaining, human nature being what it is, is getting forgotten by the news and politicians who want to "never let a crisis go to waste".
We know VA hospitals have greatly improved thanks to President Trump's actions. I don't know exactly what Italian hospitals are like these days, but I still suspect they are nowhere near as good as most major American hospitals.
Until I hear or read an on-the-scene report from a reliable source on specifically what is going on in Italy's hospitals (and why), I still believe their hospitals and healthcare systems are inferior to ours. God help all the good people of Italy...
What’s going on there simple triage - too many sick people, not enough beds or gear. Someone has to choose who gets what, if anything (and it has nothing to do with death boards.)
Same thing happens in American ERs every time there is a mass casualty event. Or a nasty Saturday night in the inner city.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triage#History
True. You do make a very good point regarding triage, and not having enough hospital beds and/or gear. Regardless of country or healthcare system.
There was plenty of milk, eggs and cheese to be had. We don’t drink milk but we got some eggs and Kraft singles. I was at the service desk asking for the manager because I wanted to get some packs of Nicorette and they keep it locked up after 9 pm which is annoying. While there at the counter a clerk came up behind the one I had been speaking with, coughed, then mumbled “Cornovirus” as an apparent attempt to be funny with her co-worker but it sorta rubbed me the wrong way. Sour apples for having to show up to a public-facing job perhaps?
I suspect in this case, Trump feels as if he must act decisively. Anything will be used against him. and frankly allowing any weakness in response would give the DEMs ammunition to use against him. As harsh as some of the measures “may” end up being, having a senile addled brained Biden as President would be far disastrous long term. At this point, he can’t talk down the concern. That horse has left the barn. It’s there and he must respond no matter if there is media generated hype occurring. He has no choice now.
I’m not so sure. If the world is past the peak rate of growth of new cases, then we are on the road to recovery. In that case, much of the hysteria is happening after the peak and after the decline has started.
Due to many more people getting tested there is about to be a huge spike in cases. While those cases already existed, the psychology of that will affect people regardless. That said, I don’t think there is a peak here yet. We are pretty early on in the cycle.
What, exactly, would the 14 day quarantine entail?
No interstate travel?
No county to county travel?
How far from home would we be allowed to roam?
Tell us what he looks like....
>> The sheeple will follow.
You could have dismissed the premise.
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