Posted on 03/15/2020 9:14:24 PM PDT by Teacher317
It may be irrational, it may be highly unlikely, it may be entirely disproportional to the actual impact thus far, but...
WHAT IF... What if Trump announces a 14-day US quarantine?
We Americans are a contrarian bunch... urban centers are not down for being patient or compliant... The Poor are not going to be able to survive for 14 days with their current resources, and they will not be able to survive a 14-day skip in their pay cycles...
https://twitter.com/WHNSC/status/1239398218292748292?s=20
NSC Response to this rumor-mongering: FAKE NEWS!!!
The fact that even people on FreeRepublic are posturing about this is very disappointing. This board has fallen a long long way from what it used to be and, the quality of members it started out with.
That's probably the key... you're in a very small town.
I am as well (population about 5,000), but that town is situated in the pretty densely populated state of Connecticut.
Hubby stopped by a medium-sized grocery store earlier today to get some produce. To my surprise, he said just about all of the MEAT was gone. Most of the paper towels and TP was gone, but there WAS some on the shelves.
I need to do some grocery shopping again tomorrow... I'll re-check the situation again then.
That’s not even a question. Ask all the guys receiving Hellfires delivered to specific GPS locations over in the Middle East lately. Er... may need a Ouija board for that, though.
Also? If you have a company issued cell phone, the company can certainly track you, so obviously the government would be able to as well.
No problem for them if it doesn’t go away, they’ll just have to keep extending the mandatory economic shutdowns until the public is bankrupt and it’s time to pivot into the Green New Deal.
I hear you - freezers all around us are filled with moose, venison & turkey. Bartering is just as alive now as it was for our relatives in the 1700’s. There’s nothing we wouldn’t do for our neighbors - they’re family as far as we’re concerned.
Not even remotely true? Ever here of New Albany Ohio? Dublin? Westerville? Some of the most affluent and richest part of Columbus. Shelves empty. Go 400 miles all around...empty. Go onto Amazon and try to purchase something as simple as toilet paper. Won’t happen. The company with the wealthiest and most profitable distribution chain in the world but they are poor?
Where are you? I'm coming to where you are! :-)
I've been to several local stores over the past few weekdays (not on Saturday and today). Some stores were pretty well stocked, some were not.
My husband made a quick stop today at our local medium-sized grocery store (which was fairly well-stocked the when I went there on Friday), and reported that most of the meat/chicken was *gone*. Most of the TP and paper towels were gone as well.
I'm hoping our local stores will re-stock VERY soon. I have to do some more grocery shopping tomorrow... I will see if there has been any improvement.
One thing you cannot find *anywhere* is hand sanitizer. One store put up a sign claiming they won't have any until September 2020! Fortunately I have a few tiny bottles of the stuff to use when I'm not at home near a sink.
Nonsense, no. Reality, yes
Ever hear of Richford, VT? Enosburg, Montgomery, or Jay? Some of the poorest areas of the state, yet shelves are full and people are calm & happy. Guess they know their equally poor neighbors will help them, just as we have for 250 years - about 210 years before Bernie Sanders showed up from Brooklyn.
An EO against price gouging will only affect the federal government’s ability to price gouge.
Glad to hear there were food items still left on shelves.
You would think the world was coming to an end over here.
I am from the northern virginia area. I have a neighbor with relatives in Italy. She said it’s really a bad situation there — her 90 yr old grandmother and family were told that the grandmother would likely not receive care if she became ill. this is what they’re telling their people.
I just seriously doubt this is any type of conspiracy. People are truly becoming ill with this and our country needs to act. I’m as red blooded conservative as it gets, but I’m also a healthcare professional. Every source I’ve read is recommending a 2 week quarantine to flatten the curve. I really fear what is going to happen if we don’t attempt it.
I’m not a lawyer nor have an expertise in EOs, emergency declaration powers and such. Just relaying what I was given by a proven (and close) source. I suspect these items are suggestions for the states and aren’t intended to be federally enforceable, but I don’t really know.
That’s total, not available. Think of everyone currently in ICU for ... whatever... occupying beds. How many available ICU beds could there really be? Now we have this disease which does not have terrifyingly high mortality, but does send 18-19% of the people who get it to the hospital.
Probable total cases are 40-70%, just do the math.
(Local Population) x 0.4 x 0.18 = Best case scenario
(Local Population) x 0.7 x 0.18 = Worst case scenario
Then you want to think about if those scenarios play out over three weeks, or three months.
Not to be insulting, but a few times this past week I’ve had to counsel technophobic boomers (not that all of them are, but there are way more than I would expect) about how no, their workers could work from home if they were office clerks, and no, they wouldn’t have to give up meetings because there was this magical invention known as the teleconference or the video conference. They would just have to use all the tech they’d pooh-poohed, refused to even consider for their employees, or reacted in horror when told they’d have to make more than one click different than what they were used to. They didn’t want to use anything that wasn’t their web browser or Microsoft Office. These people literally think that everything (literally everything, not just a few tasks) will stop or end because people can’t come into the office.
I’d guess that people like this are responsible for a lot of these shortages too.
Even people with an intelligence background can spread nonsense.
It is not if, it is when and 14 days is not enough. It should be localised based after the testing we can do this week. Not all communities will face the same measures.
That's horrible and I will keep that poor woman, and all the good people of Italy in my prayers. I truly love Italy and the Italian people, however...
Italy's healthcare system is nothing like what we have here in the US. I was (admittedly briefly) a patient in a hospital in Rome many years ago. It was a truly scary experience. I had had three major surgeries in an excellent hospital in Connecticut before landing in this Italian hospital, so I could recognize a good hospital from a bad one.
All the healthcare workers in this Roman hospital were weirdly proud of their hospital, and the fact the healthcare was "free" under its socialist system. Oh, and most of the doctors and nurses were *smoking* while on duty in the ER. They literally had cigarette butts hanging off their lips as they asked patients questions. This hospital looked like it was out of the 1930s or 40s. How I wish I had an iPhone back then to record it all.
I strongly suspect Italy's government-run healthcare system is the reason many elderly patients do not get the decent care they deserve in their later years. It is truly disgusting, but kind of a fact of life in some (if not all) of these European (and other) countries with government-run healthcare.
well we can thank god he doesn’t do monumentally moronic actions. it would cost him the preseidency.
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