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COVID-19 Update; 3/14/2020. A Message From Concerned Physicians
Howard Luks MD ^

Posted on 03/15/2020 7:44:54 AM PDT by griffin

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To: DoodleBob

Now you are starting to be way off on your predictions, but again testing and the length of time to get testing kits made available put the count way behind the reality from what was being reported.


221 posted on 03/21/2020 7:01:32 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: DoodleBob

The problem for this sort of model is that a single super-spreader or a delay in identifying new cases can trigger what we see in NYC. Flawed data is a common issue, and the only solution is to recognize that limitation.


222 posted on 03/21/2020 10:39:20 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: gas_dr

I know you’re busy but some of us would love some logical fact based info and opinion every day if possible..


223 posted on 03/21/2020 10:46:54 PM PDT by cherry
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To: gas_dr

LOL!
You nut!

Anyway, we can all ‘hope’.


224 posted on 03/21/2020 11:02:17 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; DesertRhino; gas_dr; null and void
"A month into it, and there’s 10 or 20 dead. Yeah, this is a real pearl harbor. Meanwhile at least 16,000 have died from the flu. This is an over blown, overhyped, media induced, democrat fueled panic."

The point of this backtest isn't to chastise DesertRhino, but to indicated just what's happening.

Here we are, a week later, and the JH website shows 340 bodies on the US cart, with confirmed cases rising from 3,499 on the 15th to 26,747 as of this morning. True, that's a relatively low body count...more people probably died of boredom last year, and more people were probably confirmed NeverTrumper's last year.

But it does show the velocity of the Coronavirus' spread. In contrast, I don't think we'll see a 17-fold increase in boredom deaths in 2020 (and yes, I know I didn't extrapolate the weekly increase into a yearly increase).

If I saw 10 or 20 dead flies in my home one week, and then next week it looked like the Amityville Horror, I'd take action. Now, is this worth nuking the home/vaporizing the restaurant and related service economies, and leaving waitresses and bartenders to live in Hoovervilles? That's a related discussion that I'll leave for a separate thread. But you get the point.

225 posted on 03/22/2020 6:38:21 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: gas_dr; DoodleBob
Okay ... my naive analysis shows that the U.S. total cases through today, and starting with the first day on doodlebob's table, are exponential. Each day is modeled by the previous day raised to the 1.03666228209419 power.
Actual  ^1.036662282
2717	 2717
3478	 3,631 
4645	 4,904 
6362	 6,696 
7769	 9,249 
13680	 12,926 
19285	 18,290 
26747	 26,211 
???	 38,060 
(Guesstimating 38,000 for today based upon partial day's data)
226 posted on 03/22/2020 2:15:12 PM PDT by Disestablishmentarian (the right of the people peaceably to assemble)
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To: Disestablishmentarian; gas_dr
We're at 32,644 now. You're better than I am!

That said, and at the risk of sounding like a sore loser, I'm really questioning what's happening in NYS. 1,706 was their count five days ago, and as of now they're at 15,777. True, it's a large state of about 11MM people, but they're looking like Italy.

227 posted on 03/22/2020 2:36:55 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: cherry

Willl post an update tonight


228 posted on 03/22/2020 2:48:22 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America)
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To: DoodleBob
We're at 32,644 now. You're better than I am!

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Obviously this "Naive" exponential pattern needs to break in the next few days or we will be exceeding China very soon, against all logic ... (unless they had an undisclosed vaccine before the release, or their data is totally falsified--both of which are possibilities IMO).

I still think your equation will provide a usable description of the "Bell curve" once we are able to get it calibrated.

229 posted on 03/22/2020 3:23:22 PM PDT by Disestablishmentarian (the right of the people peaceably to assemble)
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Well, this is largely futile. But I have included the US Confirmed Cases without the NY totals, which is closer to the Hubei-driven forecast.

Date Forecast Cases: Hubei Pattern Forecast Percent Growth Actual Cases Actual Cases excl NY % Daily Growth in Actual Cases % Daily Growth in Actual Cases excl NY % diff: Actual-Forecast Cases Logistic Forecast: 1/(1+exp(-( -3.2392+0.1988*day of the epidemic)))*41500 % diff: Actual-Logistic Forecast Cases
3/14/20 2,999 38.0% 2717 2202 25% 25% -9% 3,315 -18%
3/15/20 3,552 18.4% 3478 2767 28% 26% -2% 3,974 -12%
3/16/20 4,376 23.2% 4645 3665 34% 32% 6% 4,748 -2%
3/17/20 6,837 56.3% 6362 4715 37% 29% -7% 5,650 13%
3/18/20 8,271 21.0% 7769 5288 22% 12% -6% 6,693 16%
3/19/20 10,202 23.3% 13680 8312 76% 57% 34% 7,885 73%
3/20/20 12,029 17.9% 19285 10790 41% 30% 60% 9,233 109%
3/21/20 13,526 12.4% 24493 13779 27% 28% 81% 10,739 128%
3/22/20 15,264 12.8% 33276 17483 36% 27% 118% 12,395 168%
3/23/20 16,577 8.6% . . . . 14,189 .
3/24/20 18,125 9.3% . . . . 16,099 .
3/25/20 19,408 7.1% . . . . 18,096 .
3/26/20 20,410 5.2% . . . . 20,144 .
3/27/20 20,410 0.0% . . . . 22,204 .
3/28/20 29,488 44.5% . . . . 24,236 .
3/29/20 33,280 12.9% . . . . 26,201 .
3/30/20 34,408 3.4% . . . . 28,066 .
3/31/20 35,590 3.4% . . . . 29,806 .
4/1/20 36,696 3.1% . . . . 31,401 .
4/2/20 37,731 2.8% . . . . 32,842 .
4/3/20 37,945 0.6% . . . . 34,125 .
4/4/20 38,196 0.7% . . . . 35,255 .
4/5/20 38,331 0.4% . . . . 36,238 .
4/6/20 39,201 2.3% . . . . 37,086 .
4/7/20 39,201 0.0% . . . . 37,811 .
4/8/20 39,325 0.3% . . . . 38,427 .
4/9/20 39,630 0.8% . . . . 38,947 .
4/10/20 39,875 0.6% . . . . 39,384 .
4/11/20 40,125 0.6% . . . . 39,749 .
4/12/20 40,320 0.5% . . . . 40,054 .
4/13/20 40,579 0.6% . . . . 40,307 .
4/14/20 40,927 0.9% . . . . 40,517 .
4/15/20 41,047 0.3% . . . . 40,691 .

230 posted on 03/22/2020 9:21:11 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; gas_dr; dp0622; null and void; DoughtyOne; Vermont Lt; Robert DeLong; ...
Well, this is largely futile. But I have included the US Confirmed Cases without the NY totals, which is closer to the Hubei-driven forecast.

Date Forecast Cases: Hubei Pattern Forecast Percent Growth Actual Cases Actual Cases excl NY % Daily Growth in Actual Cases % Daily Growth in Actual Cases excl NY % diff: Actual-Forecast Cases Logistic Forecast: 1/(1+exp(-( -3.2392+0.1988*day of the epidemic)))*41500 % diff: Actual-Logistic Forecast Cases
3/14/20 2,999 38.0% 2717 2202 25% 25% -9% 3,315 -18%
3/15/20 3,552 18.4% 3478 2767 28% 26% -2% 3,974 -12%
3/16/20 4,376 23.2% 4645 3665 34% 32% 6% 4,748 -2%
3/17/20 6,837 56.3% 6362 4715 37% 29% -7% 5,650 13%
3/18/20 8,271 21.0% 7769 5288 22% 12% -6% 6,693 16%
3/19/20 10,202 23.3% 13680 8312 76% 57% 34% 7,885 73%
3/20/20 12,029 17.9% 19285 10790 41% 30% 60% 9,233 109%
3/21/20 13,526 12.4% 24493 13779 27% 28% 81% 10,739 128%
3/22/20 15,264 12.8% 33276 17483 36% 27% 118% 12,395 168%
3/23/20 16,577 8.6% . . . . 14,189 .
3/24/20 18,125 9.3% . . . . 16,099 .
3/25/20 19,408 7.1% . . . . 18,096 .
3/26/20 20,410 5.2% . . . . 20,144 .
3/27/20 20,410 0.0% . . . . 22,204 .
3/28/20 29,488 44.5% . . . . 24,236 .
3/29/20 33,280 12.9% . . . . 26,201 .
3/30/20 34,408 3.4% . . . . 28,066 .
3/31/20 35,590 3.4% . . . . 29,806 .
4/1/20 36,696 3.1% . . . . 31,401 .
4/2/20 37,731 2.8% . . . . 32,842 .
4/3/20 37,945 0.6% . . . . 34,125 .
4/4/20 38,196 0.7% . . . . 35,255 .
4/5/20 38,331 0.4% . . . . 36,238 .
4/6/20 39,201 2.3% . . . . 37,086 .
4/7/20 39,201 0.0% . . . . 37,811 .
4/8/20 39,325 0.3% . . . . 38,427 .
4/9/20 39,630 0.8% . . . . 38,947 .
4/10/20 39,875 0.6% . . . . 39,384 .
4/11/20 40,125 0.6% . . . . 39,749 .
4/12/20 40,320 0.5% . . . . 40,054 .
4/13/20 40,579 0.6% . . . . 40,307 .
4/14/20 40,927 0.9% . . . . 40,517 .
4/15/20 41,047 0.3% . . . . 40,691 .

231 posted on 03/22/2020 9:21:42 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: DoodleBob

Keep in mind we’ve expected a spike in the number of confirmed cases because we’re finally started mass screening.


232 posted on 03/22/2020 9:27:36 PM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: DoodleBob; gas_dr; null and void
I am anxiously waiting for my modified exponential model to
completely FAIL (i.e., overshoot the actuals), showing the
"Bell curve" of new cases is starting to bend over.

Tomorrow is projected to show about 65,000 cases in U.S. by end of day.

Date    	Actual Cases	Day-weighted Exponential Forecast
3/14/2020	 2,717  	 2,717 
3/15/2020	 3,478  	 3,691 
3/16/2020	 4,645  	 5,034 
3/17/2020	 6,362   	 6,887 
3/18/2020	 7,769  	 9,448 
3/19/2020	 13,680 	 12,991 
3/20/2020	 19,285 	 17,892 
3/21/2020	 26,747 	 24,669 
3/22/2020	 35,225 	 34,030 
3/23/2020	 46,332 	 46,936 
3/24/2020	 ???        	 64,686 
3/25/2020	 .            	 89,019 
3/26/2020	 .         	 122,243 
3/27/2020	 .           	 167,392 
3/28/2020	 .           	 228,404 
3/29/2020	 .           	 310,326 
3/30/2020	 .             	 419,530 
3/31/2020	 .          	 563,925 

Incidentally, the main reason I'm playing around with this
is to detect the FAILURE (aka "Catastrophe") in the model
which I expect will be followed by a gigantic stock
market rally, especially if it happens in the next few
days ... allowing Trump to name a date-certain for
returning to a semblance of normal business.

233 posted on 03/23/2020 10:11:23 PM PDT by Disestablishmentarian (the right of the people peaceably to assemble)
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