How To Stop Yourself Getting Covid19 - And Help Stop The Spread - If Everyone Did This The Epidemic Would Soon Stop

Science20.com Via RealClearScience ^ | 03/13/2020 | Robert Walker |

[Kid Shelleen]

---SNIP--- you can stop yourself from getting the virus and so can your relatives and friends, by following the same simple rules that Bruce Aylward and his team used. This international team of experts toured the worst virus hotspots in China. They came away again confident that they are not contacts for the virus and didn’t need to be quarantined before talking directly to the press.

You can keep yourself safe from this virus in the same way, with the right hygiene. If most of us did this it would soon go extinct in the wild.

All of us who do this are helping our country and the world to contain the virus

[chuckb87]

Since he was in “hot spots” I’ll take his word for over some egg head on TV.

[Kid Shelleen]

Very informative. Some scientists have a very specific definition of airborne that the coronavirus does not meet but the coronavirus can travel in air so it does exist somewhere on the “spectrum of airborne-ness” which is important to be aware of.

[oldasrocks]

I use a simple plan. Lock the front gate 300 yards from the house and stay home. use tongs to get the mail, drop in bucket and spray with Lysol.

[lepton]

“Aerosolized” would be droplets, which tend not to travel far, and drop to the floor fairly quickly where most will stick. These can be mostly filtered out of the air by passing through some material fine enough to guarantee the droplets touch something.

“Airborne” contagions float around like dust motes and a breeze can lift them back up. These would need to be filtered out of the air with very fine filters.

This coronavirus appears to be spread by aerosol droplets, and contact with contaminated surfaces, and does not appear to be truly “airborne”. There’s a difference, but it’s not obvious if you aren’t used to the terminology.

[Alas Babylon!]

Before and after silver ingestion, or, "How to become Papa Smurf in one easy lesson":

[LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget]

Its funny. We are almost always on the same side when there is a disagreement here and almost never wrong. GMTA.

[LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget]

I hate to say it but that is not a bad plan as long as you have your necessities stocked for the 3 to 4 months this is going to take to wash out.

If you don’t, get your necessities delivered at the gate, glove up and treat the same way.

[Sequoyah101]

But is is airborne as are most viruses spread by droplets in a sneeze for example.

[coaster123]

That’s effort, good work!

[daniel1212]

Very informative. Some scientists have a very specific definition of airborne that the coronavirus does not meet but the coronavirus can travel in air so it does exist somewhere on the “spectrum of airborne-ness” which is important to be aware of.

it is a good article, However, Wired article cannot be posted at all.

[Maudeen]

(Smile)

[Cvengr]

Some reports are that it is active airborne for 3 to 4 hours, and on hard curved plastic and metal surfaces for 3 -4 days.

This implies any large facility, mandated by the Democratic Socialists to conserve energy by recirculating air conditioned or heated spaces, is that in any large bldg, anybody who is not exhibiting symptoms, but is still infected with COVID-19, can now sread it to anybody else in the same bldg if the air is recirculated within 3 hours.

Next, if the HVAC manager is saavy enough to quadruple his energy costs, by using all Outside Air, he must also exhaust the contaminated air, so flues now must be installed on HVAC Exhausts to insure exhausted air never reaches the Outside Air Inlets within 3 hrs of exhaust.

Likewise, exhausted air must not be able to venture into adjacent bldgs and their HVAC systems.

Meanwhile, all door locksets would need to be replaced with push bars and until such time, always carry a disposable hand towel to wipe of surfaces before touching them, such as elevator push buttons, handrails, door knobs, pull handles, valve handles, hand dryer buttons, etc.

It will be another AIDS warning behavior to use your foot to open everything.

[WaltStuart]

The 'experts' I've read have asserted that improper particle size contributes to the blue skin . . . as well as massive, excessive over-the-top use of too large a particle based solution.

OK. I've been requested to share the following so I'll share it here.

The following regimen has prevented any cold or other respiratory illness from taking root in my body for at least 5-8 years--probably longer.

I have had pneumonia several times so lung health is a priority and colds could easily turn into life-threatening-for-me pneumonia.

I have had chronic sinus infections all my life. The Navy had no solution.

Maybe 10-15 years ago or so, I discovered the Neil Med squeeze bottle and saline solution at Walgreens. The netti pot tickled my nose insufferably but the squeeze bottle was workable.

I discovered that --->IF<--- I faithfully & immediately used the saline in the squeeze bottle up my nose at first HINT of a cold symptom--and every succeeding hint--until the symptoms ceased, the cold would not take root.

I had to use the saline about every 3-4 hours and for 3-5 days or so. Usually 3 days, maybe 4. Then the cold would be prevented and I could stop the regimen.

Then I learned that nano-sized particles of colloidal silver is the best version available and does not cause the blue skin. I found that the best source happened to be about 3 miles from my house from a great authentic Christian organization.

Their website is

http://msminerals.com

HOWEVER, the page has been returning a blank white page so I plan to call them Monday. Evidently there's something currently wrong with their server.

IIRC, they typically sell a 200ppm solution.

Anyway--I decided to experiment with the colloidal silver solution in the squeeze bottle.

Initially, I had a kind of "ice cream headache" sensation for 3-5 seconds the first 8-10 applications. I no longer have that. Evidently that was related to Ph.

I discovered that using the silver at the first HINT of any symptom (& every succeeding hint of a symptom) was essential with the silver, too.

Mercifully, the results were wonderfully different than with the irritating saline.

1. I only needed to use 1-3 squeezes vs 1/2 to full bottle of the saline.

2. The symptoms abated for 8-12 hours with the silver vs only 3-4 hours with the saline.

3. The symptoms were fully stopped & the threat shut down after 24-48 hours with the silver vs 3-5 days with the saline.

It is an incredible relief to have found such a solution to very threatening respiratory diseases.

I understand from recent research that the silver can be put in sonic atomizers for breathing it into the lungs effectively. I haven't tried that. I understand it needs to be done with a clean atomizer & not mixed with essential oils residue. There's some concern that the essential oils residue could cause unhelpful clumping of the nano-sized silver particles.

I will note that I've been OCD about hand sanitation most of my adult life--alcohol wipes, Chlorox wet-wipes etc.

And I typically take Vitamine D3, liposomal Vitamin C, turmeric, ginger, black seed oil etc. And I have Oreganol on hand but have not needed it for years.

I also take magnesium & potassium aspartate.

I'm merely sharing my experiences with the above. I have no idea what your experiences might be.

I do know that others who have copied my regimen have reported similar results. Those with less glowing results were found to NOT be very disciplined about applying the silver at EVERY HINT of a symptom around the clock--e.g. even the middle of the night on a bladder break.

Not sure what the benefit of the following is but it seems to be helpful in keeping my lungs clear. I can still get a bit clogged up in the middle of the night, at times.

I have a conical shaped sonic atomizer from Natural Grocers. I think it's about 5" or so diameter on the base. I have an elbow of a 3.5" diameter PVC pipe mated to about 1.5' length of the same sized pipe that I place on top of the conical atomizer. That is arranged so it delivers the mist to about 3" from my face as I sleep. Using the common essential oils others have found to be helpful with lung health has seemingly been a good habit for me, as I sleep. I don't use it all the time. But when I do--it seems to be quite helpful at keeping my lungs clear.

I also take 2 tablespoons of the following concoction 1-2 times a day:

1 cup lemon juice
1 cup Bragg's apple cider vinegar
1 cup ginger puree
1 cup garlic puree


Simmer & stir above for 30 minutes.

Instructions say to allow to cool then add 3-4 cups of organic raw honey.

I let it cool to slightly warm and use about 2-3 cups of honey. I made 5 quarts last time. It keeps well in the fridge. The measurements don't have to be 1 cup--just equal measures, except for the honey.

I think that's about all I have to offer in terms of my experiences with such stuff.

Am willing to try and answer your questions if you have any.

However, if your main goal is to be contrarian in a hostile naysaying mode to what I have to share, please don't expect a positive cordial reply from me.

[Joachim]

Paper is here: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.09.20033217v2.full.pdf

What I find interesting about this is that COVID-19 behaves very similarly to SARS - especially "This indicates that differences in the epidemiology of these viruses likely arise from other factors, including high viral loads in the upper respiratory tract and the potential for individuals infected with HCoV-19 to shed and transmit the virus while asymptomatic"

High viral loads (1,000 to 10,000 times that of SARS even just after onset of symptoms) and viral replication in the upper respiratory tract (unlike SARS) were confirmed in this German study.

This European study estimates that the mean generation interval (time for one generation of the virus' hosts to infect the next) was 5.20 days in Singapore and only 3.95 days in Tianjin, China.

The European study also estimates the presymptomatic transmission rate to be between 44 and 75% of total transmissions. (!)

So aggressive social distancing to lower the spike of cases makes a lot of sense, given that these results suggest high contagiousness and a large amount of presymptomatic spread.

One question is why COVID-19 is not even worse than it is, given these results and those of the paper in the URL copied from the earlier post.

Seems likely that the number of mild untested cases is either significantly underestimated and some "herd immunity" is developing, or that some fraction of the population already has some immunity, as suggested by the cruise ship quarantines (where less caught it than the 60 or 70% or more which might be needed for herd immunity to have a significant effect). (Maybe a combination of these effects could be reducing the total spread too.)

Bottom line, COVID-19 is hardly the end of the world, but slowing the spread will prevent some deaths (from COVID-19 and from other conditions properly treatable only if the hospital system is not overrun) and is thus worth some pain.

[trebb]

Ironic how accurate this is - if more people would take normal Flu/cold precautions, instead of buying up all the TP and bleach that they will be years in using up, no bugs would propagate like they do.

[trebb]

Not airborne - carries in droplets from coughs/sneezes and drops put of “circulation” fairly quick....if it was airborne, we’d have a billion cases by now.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

Covid19 lasts:

About a day on cardboard

Lasts 2-3 days on steel and plastic (13,16 hour half lives respectively)

lasts only 4 hours on copper

lasts 3 hours floating around in air (tested at room temp and 40% humidity)

Lasts longer in cold air and dry air.

Other papers show that half life drops dramatically in air with higher absolute (not relative) humidity. So Florida might have slower spread?

Nosocomial (I had to look it up) refers to an infection acquired in a hospital or other health care facility.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.09.20033217v1.full.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0fYT5dzs4-9s2PcTKT7jOHhfUWQO0XYTRWMc85UgnPazmVLi8dXbameIY

[Kid Shelleen]

>> About a day on cardboard <<

Does this mean it can be spread via mail or other delivery services?

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

Yup.

[Leep]

The main problem is, possibly always is, you are appealing to the same people who would completed strip a store in their own selfish pursuits...and who do not give a damn about anyone else.
Not their neighbors ..not the elderly..no one.
Add to it ..illegals, who have no real connection to our country, who have not ever been tested for everyday viruses ..let alone deadly viruses and diseases..and likely don’t care if a few thousand, or even a few million,gringos die.