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UBS ETRACS MLPQ being liquidated (investing)
UBS ^ | Vince Ferrer

Posted on 03/12/2020 9:58:42 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer

This post is a heads up. There are investments called ETNs (exchange traded notes) which are sort of like mutual funds, but are listed like stocks. UBS has listed many of these. Well, down in the details of the prospectus that no one reads is a clause that if the value of the security goes below $5, they get liquidated. Due to the stock market correction, there are several close to being liquidated, and UBS has announced one issue, MLPQ, is being liquidated. I wrote this because if people are searching around for good deals, these look great. They aren't. Any investor now will probably lose a substantial amount of money. Shorting them might be an option, but I am not going to recommend anything.


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You may now return to your scheduled stock market crash.
1 posted on 03/12/2020 9:58:42 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

First stock to zero.


2 posted on 03/12/2020 10:00:17 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: Old Yeller

Over on ZeroHedge they were saying, the reason ALL asset classes are getting hammered at the same time, is that some large party (I’d say, several) are getting HUGE margin calls and have to liquidate at any price.

The selling, then drives down the value of collateral which other parties hold, so THEY have to sell, and so on.

“The second thing we do, let’s kill all the bankers and MBAs.”


3 posted on 03/12/2020 10:14:00 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Once the dow reaches 18 i’m all in.

not 18,000.

Just 18.

i’ll make a killing

Unless someone drives it down to 4.

I wonder what the P/E is for the dow and nasdaw and s/p compared to the past.

Too lazy to go look.


4 posted on 03/12/2020 10:14:26 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Hey, 1,000 point swing in the past hour from 500 down to 500 up on the dow

I wonder what news cam out this late.


5 posted on 03/12/2020 10:16:52 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: grey_whiskers

Well, there are those 3x ETFs.

I wonder how they are doing...


6 posted on 03/12/2020 10:24:38 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: dp0622

I think at this point all an up day on Friday will do is guarantee the big drop will be on Monday. There’s no chance the weekend will not be filled with bad economic news.


7 posted on 03/12/2020 10:25:14 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: dp0622

If the E is below zer0, what does the P look like?


8 posted on 03/12/2020 10:26:12 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: dp0622

Charmin futures!

9 posted on 03/12/2020 10:26:14 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

lol


10 posted on 03/12/2020 10:29:49 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: Paladin2

BAD!!

When I see an N/A next to P/E ratio on a stock, it better have incredible growth projections.

Cause it ain’t making a dime!!

And even then, many marijuana stocks are jumping in revenue but still losing money.

I’m putting all of my money into pork bellies.

The bellies are very large so lots of money fits in them


11 posted on 03/12/2020 10:32:13 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: grey_whiskers

I had to steal that one, but I shan’t apologize.


12 posted on 03/12/2020 10:42:32 PM PDT by Ingtar (Biden needs 50.25%, Sanders 57.82% remain delegates. 52 outstanding. Found spreadsheet error.)
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To: Ingtar

It wasn’t mine.
Go ahead, become a superspreader.


13 posted on 03/12/2020 10:44:15 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Paladin2

“what does the P look like?”

It’s kinda pale yellow, like diet Mountain Dew..


14 posted on 03/12/2020 10:48:06 PM PDT by decal (I'm not rude, I don't suffer fools is all.)
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To: dp0622

Now that there are negative interest rates in some places, can negative stock prices be far behind?

That way some stocks could have a positive P/E ratio even if their earnings are negative.

Interesting times...


15 posted on 03/12/2020 10:48:48 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: grey_whiskers

Now that made me LOLOL!


16 posted on 03/12/2020 11:08:21 PM PDT by Aria
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To: Paladin2

lol

That one hurt my head :)

I think the NY Fed is pumping 1.5 trillion dollars into the bond market.

That should help things :)


17 posted on 03/12/2020 11:23:18 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: Vince Ferrer

That’s why you read a prospectus.


18 posted on 03/13/2020 5:44:13 AM PDT by Renkluaf
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To: grey_whiskers

LOL, that’s a good one.


19 posted on 03/13/2020 5:49:47 AM PDT by Rebelbase ("The people anxiously hope for just two things: bread and circuses" and now the circuses are gone.)
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