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Coronavirus can travel twice as far as official ‘safe distance’ and stay in air for 30 minutes, Chinese study finds
South China Morning Post ^ | Published: 10:44pm, 9 Mar, 2020 | Stephen Chen

Posted on 03/09/2020 2:08:28 PM PDT by amorphous

Coronavirus can travel twice as far as official ‘safe distance’ and stay in air for 30 minutes, Chinese study finds

Authorities advise people to stay 1-2 metres apart, but researchers found that a bus passenger infected fellow travellers sitting 4.5 metres away

The scientists behind the research said their investigation also highlighted the importance of wearing face masks because of the length of time it can linger

(Excerpt) Read more at scmp.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: china; coronavirus; travel; wuhanflu
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To: amorphous

Didn’t intend to sound too doc myself just want to make sure you and other freepers are taking the recommended one.


81 posted on 03/09/2020 6:46:24 PM PDT by Moonlighter
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To: 9YearLurker
Could well have been something China detonated...

It sure seems made for something. As to who, what, and why, I only draw a blank. Russia, China, and Iran, all have their people trying to place blame on the US, and with China and Iran suffering the initial onslaught, I look for the rhetoric to increase. The evidence we've seen/heard reported so far, points toward China as the culprit, whether intentional or just an accidental release. What bothers me the most, is what I've feared for some time now, a nuclear Perl Harbor. :(

82 posted on 03/09/2020 6:57:54 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: Moonlighter

That’s exactly what we need to do, educate each other, as no one person has all the answers. But as a whole, we’re a pretty awesome group! :)


83 posted on 03/09/2020 7:00:06 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: amorphous

Thanks for the link! Good info.. love the way he says vitamin. Heh.


84 posted on 03/09/2020 7:11:40 PM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, ad that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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To: amorphous

Apparently there are records of the virus sale to China from the UNC lab. Also, Fauci’s NIH infectious diseases has apparently supported both that lab and the Wuhan lab. I am only aware of Sen. Cotton having brought up the weaponization. NIH’s involvement would sure explain their apparent lack of curiosity, analysis and blame on the origin.


85 posted on 03/09/2020 7:40:10 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: amorphous

” Authorities advise people to stay 1-2 metres apart, but researchers found that a bus passenger infected fellow travellers sitting 4.5 metres away “

How did they determine that? Where one sits on the bus ain’t the only time passengers come close to each other...he could have sneezed/coughed on the way to his seat and got to folks already sitting or even as folks seated behind him were on the way to their seats...and they may have touched surfaces he had recently infected.

This is a crap story (tale).


86 posted on 03/10/2020 3:59:51 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: DannyTN

Thank you! But wow, that’s far. And impossible.


87 posted on 03/10/2020 4:10:28 AM PDT by EnquiringMind (')
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To: chopperk

Thanks, Pops Frankie


88 posted on 03/10/2020 4:11:45 AM PDT by EnquiringMind (')
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To: amorphous

“highlighted the importance of wearing face masks”

My Sister needs to start chemo. When I went with her to discuss the treatment with her Oncologist last week I voiced my concern about wiping out her immune system with this virus spreading. When my Sister asked about wearing a surgical mask during treatment and when out and about the Dr said no, they don’t work.

I told the Dr. that there are many stories written lately that say they don’t work as well and in the next paragraph mention the masks need to be reserved for medical personnel. I’m not sure he appreciated nor had a rational response when I asked him “if the masks don’t work why is it so important that they be reserved for medical personnel??”

He finally hemmed and hawd that the N95 masks can work if well fitted but you wouldn’t want to wear one as they are so uncomfortable.


89 posted on 03/10/2020 5:02:41 AM PDT by DAC21 ( and Naflet)
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To: DAC21
He finally hemmed and hawd that the N95 masks can work if well fitted but you wouldn’t want to wear one as they are so uncomfortable.

So the mask being "uncomfortable" is one of the considerations when the doctors advised people not to wear a mask?

Good for you for being there for your sister.

90 posted on 03/10/2020 5:08:37 AM PDT by Fury
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To: NFHale

According to some guy that ran for senate, they stole it from Canada but it was originally created here, See tweet thread unroll. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1226311942354042880.html


91 posted on 03/10/2020 6:19:40 AM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: amorphous

The infected vs not infected pattern looks more like a touch sequence pattern than merely by air.

The two sitting to the back of “patient one” touched her seat on some part (back, arms) as they departed the bus. The original patient touched the seats (back/arms) immediately on the aisle as she departed the bus, including possibly the seat back on the seat in front of the patient not infected until 30 minutes after patient one departed - which that 30-minutes later patient touched as she departed the bus. Three infected patients either touched seats (seat back or arms) of seats the infected person had touched on her way out of the bus, or as they sat on the aisle were touched directly by patient one as she departed. One person (the only one) sitting not on the aisle did the same as they got up and departed the bus.

That would fit the actual infected-not-infected pattern more than an air pattern.


92 posted on 03/10/2020 6:27:02 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: DAC21
OMG, what a liar! They do work.

Dr. Campbell critics some of this in his Tuesday update:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZV9z0RVhy4

93 posted on 03/10/2020 8:48:30 AM PDT by amorphous
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To: Wuli
Great analysis!

See the video link at #93, Campbell gives his in the beginning of the video.

94 posted on 03/10/2020 8:52:09 AM PDT by amorphous
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To: amorphous

I wish Dr Cambell questioned aerosol assumption, as I did (when I saw the infection pattern on the bus) because to me that assumption does not explain either how most of the infected were either right adjacent to “patient one” (those who sat behind patient one, or sitting on aisle seats that patient one would have passed getting on or off the bus, and only one other infected person was both not on the aisle and not sitting adjacent to patient one. Almost all the not infected persons sat neither on an aisle seat nor adjacent to patient one. It all suggests a touch patter, more than what would be expected - randomly - by an aerosol pattern.


95 posted on 03/10/2020 12:58:31 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli

Given the longevity of the virus on surfaces, could there be contamination left by others prior to the observable time of the video they used? That brings up a question of when the bus was last cleaned too.


96 posted on 03/10/2020 4:11:28 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: amorphous

You’re right.


97 posted on 03/10/2020 4:12:53 PM PDT by Wuli
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