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Harper’s Weekly – March 3, 1860
Harper's Weekly archives ^ | March 3, 1860

Posted on 03/03/2020 5:01:11 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson

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To: OIFVeteran
I want to draw attention to one part of Lincoln’s New Haven speech because it supports my contention from a previous thread that the slavery issue and the abortion issue have many similarities. With the democrats being just as wrong then as they are now.

You picked a wonderful passage to make the comparison. I first noticed the similarities between the two issues when I went through Dred Scott a few years back. Just as with Roe v. Wade the justices performed Olympic-level logical gymnastics to arrive at a predetermined outcome.

21 posted on 03/07/2020 1:56:01 PM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; Tax-chick; colorado tanker; Riley; rockrr; OIFVeteran; jeffersondem; ...
from post #14, George Templeton Strong on Darwin's new theory: If I understand Strong correctly, his opinion on Darwin is the same as mine -- Strong "gets" the scientific project is to reduce God's miracles to explainable "natural processes", such as plant photosynthesis, but Strong refuses to blind himself to God's Authorship by looking at such processes through the eyes of Godless science.

Again, if I understand correctly, Strong is not saying Darwin's theory is wrong, only that what Darwin might call a "natural process" is, to Strong, still a miracle of God.
In today's terms that is called "theistic evolutionism" and has long been the teaching of most mainline Christian churches.

It contrasts sharply with still surprisingly strong Biblical traditionalism which maintains that Darwin was entirely wrong, and for nefarious reasons which go to the core purpose of the long-term scientific enterprise -- to discover natural explanations for natural processes.
Traditionalists tell us that Darwin and other "historical science" researchers were all about destroying God's role in nature and are therefore responsible for every Godless evil the world has seen since Darwin's time!

And, bringing it all home to March of 1860, those evils begin with the trinitarian devils now first unleashed:

The trinitarian devils unleashed by 1860: Lincoln the "father", Darwin the "son", Marx the "unholy spirit", according to those most opposed to all three.***

***Our job here is to rescue at least Lincoln, if not also Darwin, from the claims of such historical revisionists.

22 posted on 03/08/2020 4:19:42 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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Charles A. Dana to James S. Pike, March 8, 1860

NEW YORK, March 8, 1860.

DEAR PIKE: Horace wants to go off in April, along between the 1st and the 10th, to be gone for a week or so, and I write to propose that you should get here by the 1st. He is going over Pennsylvania, and without your help we can't get along.

I have had a second letter from Hildreth. He is mending, and really writes in good spirits. I infer that he is going to get well.

The Seward stock is rising, and that will console some of our friends for the defeat of the city railroad schemes in Albany. George Law has beat all the other speculators, and got a bill through the Senate which looks like smothering the whole concern. It charters a road in the Seventh Avenue, with forty-eight branches running through every cross-street. The great political engineers are aghast at this triumph of their opponent. Perhaps they may beat him yet; but I doubt it.

Yours faithfully,

C. A. DANA.

SOURCE: James Shepherd Pike, First Blows of the Civil War: The Ten Years of Preliminary Conflict in the United States from 1850 to 1860, p. 501

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Horace Greeley to James S. Pike, March 8, 1860

NEW YORK, March 8, 1860.

FRIEND PIKE: I have bet you $20 on Douglas against the field. So far good. Now you say Seward will be our man. Well, I offer you $20 on that. I name my man for Charleston and back him against the field. You name your man for Chicago, and don't back him against the field, as I proposed. Very good. It seems that I have more confidence in my jud[g]ment than you have in yours; so we will stand there on the original $20 on Douglas, which I trust you will win; only, if Douglas has no chance, you and Harvey should “poor pussy” him, not abuse him.

F. is one of the poorest and most debauched of the drunken sailors that floated ashore from the wreck of Know-Nothingism. He is, of course, the very man for a printer to Congress. No honest man could get it, for none of that stamp could lie enough. Hence Follett's failure in '56, and Defrees's now. Both these are honest men.

But Gurley's bill to establish a Government Printing-Office is worse even than Ford or Bowman or Wendell — worse than all three together. It is to establish a national hospital for broken-down editors and printers, the jackals of the Camerons, and Bankses and Brights and Gwinns of all time. It will be more expensive and more nauseous than any thing we have yet known. Every drunken printer and ex-editor who won't work, and can't earn a living if he would, will be billeted on the public Treasury, and jobs will be invented to keep up a semblance of work for them — and very little work will do them. Just see.

I hope F. will cheat the crowd out of every dollar. If he will do this with the impudence of a highwayman, I'll go in for giving him another as good thing somewhere. Genius should be encouraged.

Yours,

H. G.

J. S. P.

SOURCE: James Shepherd Pike, First Blows of the Civil War: The Ten Years of Preliminary Conflict in the United States from 1850 to 1860, p. 502

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23 posted on 03/08/2020 2:27:36 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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