Posted on 03/02/2020 12:52:39 PM PST by Vermont Lt
Continuation of Live Thread from No 7.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3820821/posts
I read the stand many years ago. the early part of the book dealt with a 99.99% fatal bacteria (accidental release, US/DOD). I don’t remember alot clearly but so many things I have seen actual governments do or say resonated me right back to that book the last month. He really nailed how governments would lie about how bad things were and keep lying even when no one believed them.
and yes, the initial infection country made sure the whole world got it.
Sorry repost
JAPAN
Expert “Avoid airy spaces” (meaning poorly ventilated)
March 02, 18:16
A national expert meeting on anti-coronavirus measures analyzed data from Hokkaido, where the number of infected people was the highest, and summarized the findings, spreading even if the young generation with mild symptoms did not notice even if infected. He refrained from going out even with mild cold symptoms, and called for as few events as possible in poorly ventilated spaces.
Following the spread of infection in Hokkaido, an expert meeting of the national emergency response headquarters for the new coronavirus put together its views on the status of infection and the measures required in the future.
Among them, regarding Hokkaido, “it is thought that there are many tourists from China and it is thought that those people spread the infection”, and given the situation where infected people are scattered throughout the province, considering the population ratio According to the report, the number of infected cases is overwhelmingly large in remote areas.
In addition, people with mild symptoms are thought to play an important role in spreading infection in Hokkaido without noticing, especially among young people, the rate of severe disease is very low and the situation of infection spread is not visible As a result, it is believed that many middle-aged and elderly people are infected as a result.
And about of the infected people, about 80% did not infect other people, while in cases where one or more people were infected at a close distance for a certain period of time in a closed indoor space. It has been reported.
Furthermore, in urban areas in Hokkaido, where there are many young generations, people with active social and economic activities are more likely to gather in places where these infection risks are high, and it is said that infection is spreading without realizing it. It is believed that the infection has spread as people move to other parts of Hokkaido.
In addition, if active measures were taken in the past one or two weeks, the spread of infection could be rapidly converged. Regardless, we encourage people to avoid going to places and events where they can talk at close distances in a poorly ventilated space.
On the other hand, those who have no symptoms are infected outdoors, such as walking, jogging, shopping, and activities that have little contact with people, and reaching out to reach the other person and talking at a distance that is out of reach. Risk is low.
He further commented that he was “requesting” people in their teens and thirties, saying that young people could spread the disease to people at high risk of illness. Alone can stop the illness of many people and save lives. “
the higher numbers reflect earlier seeding.
Worse think you can do is shoot an infected victim. Creates all kinds of airborne particles. The Chinese bag em wiggingly and throw em into the fire.
The important question is are they “new” cases, or existing illness just found with expanded testing?
Public relations works—until it does not any more.
It bought a week or two of calm—so some of us who ignored official statements went out and did our prepping thing.
But—there is a price to be paid.
It is called credibility.
I no longer believe anything anybody says—and have to verify everything. But—that is because public officials have been lying about stuff for decades—and I noticed.
But—cynical old-timers like me are the minority.
You do _not_ want a society of cynics like me.
Because—the next time the public officials have something important and true to say—they will be ignored.
I think Japan was having testing problems same as US.
japan apparently learned the trick to keep cases low - don’t test.
it has to be rampant there. can they suppress death tolls? they are a critical early data source for a westernized country.
You know, we've got the guns and attitude that our government would be strongly discouraged from taking such an approach as China did.
Our government wants to be on our side. China's doesn't have to care about that. And didn't.
Hey that’s really incredibly useful!
the boy really did cry when a wolf appeared, but the public officials always say things are ok so you don’t have to worry about them actually saying ‘wolf.’ they always say ‘deer.’
the cdc is at best a lagging indicator and at worst just dishonest about stuff.
expect delivery in April, maybe.
Ugh! Sorry again...
Translation Google
What are the fears of cold, hot, dry and wet new crown virus? German medical experts answer questions
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Compose: Nie Zhenyu
2020-03-02 10:33:00
Once the temperature rises, the new coronavirus will dissipate? Why spring might indeed be a gospel, and what makes the new coronavirus special, a German virologist answers.
According to the Voice of Germany report on March 1, many people expect that spring will make the situation better. If the new crown virus really resembles the flu virus, it may be considered good news. Because if this happens, as the spring comes, the temperature will rise, the virus will be killed, and the epidemic will disappear.
But these are just people’s good wishes. Thomas Pietschmann, a molecular virologist at the Center for Experimental and Clinical Infection Research in Hanover, Germany, believes that whether the new crown virus will behave as expected, this question cannot be strictly answered because humans Virus awareness is not enough.
“The special thing about this virus is that it’s the first time humans have come into contact with it. Based on the data we got from China, we can conclude that the virus was transmitted from an animal to humans, just once, and then from there Began to spread. “
In other words, unlike the flu virus that almost everyone has come into contact with, our immune system is not ready for the invasion of the new crown virus.
In addition, the current climate in the northern hemisphere is “perfect” for the rapid spread of the virus. The first is air temperature. Viruses transmitted through the respiratory tract are particularly active at low temperatures: “The virus is more stable at lower temperatures. It’s like food can be stored longer in the refrigerator.”
For many viruses, the better the temperature, the worse the day. “The new coronavirus is surrounded by a lipid layer,” Pitzman said. The lipid layer is not particularly heat-resistant, so the virus is killed soon after the temperature rises.
Humidity also plays a major role in the infectivity of respiratory viruses. Pathogens float out of the air after being sneezed violently. “Compared to high-humidity environments, in most drier cold winter days, small droplets with viruses stay in the air for longer,” Pitzman said.
In addition, infection with the virus is not only related to age and health, but also depends on gender. Estrogen can also help women fight off the virus.
“There are genetic reasons for this, because some genes related to the immune system, such as those responsible for identifying pathogens, are encoded on the X chromosome.” Because women have two X chromosomes, There is only one male, so women obviously have an advantage in this regard.
The Voice of Germany specifically mentioned that perhaps when the northern hemisphere spring blooms, the new crown epidemic will really end. However, according to the WHO, at least 20 new crown cases have been detected in Australia, and Brazil has also. Both countries are in the southern hemisphere. The winter there has not yet begun.
That's an unproven statement, and consider what Japan has done different. The government encouraged as many workers as possible to work from home and did that the 2nd? or 3rd week in February. That's unprecedented. As is encouraging cancelling K-12 classes until the first week in April. One friend who lives there says they expect to be working from home for 3-4 weeks. Some people still go into work, but the trains have noticeably less people (well, the line that my friend takes has less people).
Not a completed bioweapon. Most think a virus being made into a vaccine was accidentally released through lab test animals. It’s something unknown. Unpredictable. Hence the Chinese are welding some infected people into their buildings. But usually just sealing their doors with tape. And of course we have dozens of Iranians collapsed videos now. A flu dont do that.
Thanks for posting this. One friend is thinking about having a friend come in from Hokkaido for the Vernal Equinox national holiday. I have strongly encouraged him to NOT do that and am passing along the article from NHK
That is excellent mitigation, and would keep the virus under control here—if it is done early enough...
Tick, tick, tick....
Uncommon after taking sinus medication. Lol. My guess is flus are just more virulent colds.
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