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Coronavirus Live Thread. No. 8
3/2/2020

Posted on 03/02/2020 12:52:39 PM PST by Vermont Lt

Continuation of Live Thread from No 7.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3820821/posts


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: butbutflu; chinavirus; communityspread; coronavirus; covid19; cvlivethread; dooom; flu; globaldoom; livethread; sarscov2
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To: FR33DOM4ME

That’s pretty grim. The youngest Dem now is Biden.

That’s scary in itself.


101 posted on 03/02/2020 1:38:32 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat
ALL of the people who passed were at the same assisted care facility and ALL were in very poor health, I hardly think we should consider this as spreading OR a huge death rate due to the virus!! This would be expected in a facility like this!!!

Assuming that's true (and I'm not challenging it), then you're right. But our numbers in the U.S. are way too low at this point for any statistics to have real meaning.

But if you look at the official numbers that include all patients, then the Case Fatality Rate (CFR) currently stands at somewhere between 3.4% and 6.3%, depending on how many of those who still have the disease end up dying.

Compare that to a CFR for seasonal flu of less than 0.1%. The Spanish Flu is estimated to have had a CFR of around 2.5%.

That, folks, along with the obvious ease with which the virus is spreading, and it's obvious ability to overwhelm a health care system, is why this is being taken so seriously. The CFR in a system where the virus is relatively contained will almost certainly be lower than the CFR in an overwhelmed system.

Still, my preparations center more around the supply chain and stock market disruptions than they do around avoiding or surviving the virus.

102 posted on 03/02/2020 1:39:27 PM PST by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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To: cgbg
I would probably be about a 7. I expect that there will be local quarantines before this is done, and this will surprise a lot of folks here.

I'm around there too. I don't think many have really been watching what other countries are doing to slow it's spread. That includes, as you said, quarantines on a massive scale.

103 posted on 03/02/2020 1:40:01 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

You cannot base the six deaths as anything. Why do folks think this is going to be over in a week.

Put your slippers on. Get a cup of tea. Settle in. This story is on episode 1. And it’s a ten part binge.


104 posted on 03/02/2020 1:41:07 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: dynachrome

Ssssh...the first rule is you don’t talk about it.


105 posted on 03/02/2020 1:41:45 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

Ten seasons, and episode 1 of 20.


106 posted on 03/02/2020 1:41:46 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: scouter
Compare that to a CFR for seasonal flu of less than 0.1%. The Spanish Flu is estimated to have had a CFR of around 2.5%. That, folks, along with the obvious ease with which the virus is spreading, and it's obvious ability to overwhelm a health care system, is why this is being taken so seriously. The CFR in a system where the virus is relatively contained will almost certainly be lower than the CFR in an overwhelmed system. Still, my preparations center more around the supply chain and stock market disruptions than they do around avoiding or surviving the virus.

Great post! We need to be prepared to possibly be confined to our homes for up to a month or to have enough in case stores run out due to the factors you mentioned.

107 posted on 03/02/2020 1:42:41 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: BenLurkin

A bunch. Many folks don’t show symptoms for a while, or at all.


108 posted on 03/02/2020 1:43:01 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

*** The youngest Dem now is Biden. ***

Tulsi Gabbard


109 posted on 03/02/2020 1:44:32 PM PST by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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To: DouglasKC
Another factor to consider:


110 posted on 03/02/2020 1:45:43 PM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

Quite frankly, your lack of concern for the concern of the resident concern trolls... concerns me. Or something.

Oh, wait - nevermind. Not concerned.

P.S. Obama had 1000 American deaths before he labelled H1N1 an emergency. Over 12,000 Americans died from H1N1 and over 500,000 globally. I don’t remember the serious concern in the media or on this board when the great Obamanator was whistling past the swine flu graveyard.


111 posted on 03/02/2020 1:45:52 PM PST by Graing ("The power of wind, fire... all that kind of thing")
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To: lodi90

The central banks injected a boatload offree money. It’s like throwing gas on a fire.

Nothing else changed. There is still little coming out of China.

But, we will see.


112 posted on 03/02/2020 1:45:58 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

I heard from my brother that his wife told him not to kiss the dog. It can make her dog sick.


113 posted on 03/02/2020 1:46:37 PM PST by CJ Wolf ( #wwg1wga)
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To: DouglasKC

You also don’t want to be caught up in big crowds with panic buying situations, and I hate waiting in lines so don’t want to be in stores that have long lines.


114 posted on 03/02/2020 1:47:10 PM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: HollyB

Good news, for your son. I know you have to be relieved.


115 posted on 03/02/2020 1:48:06 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: oil_dude

That flu that kills about 30K per year has a 0.1% fatality rate.

Coronavirus has a 2% fatality rate, or 20X higher.

And it also has a much higher R-Naught, or infectiousness.

The 2% is “best case” when first-world medical systems can keep up. Once hospitals are overrun, the 15% serious rate becomes the death rate.


116 posted on 03/02/2020 1:48:17 PM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Vermont Lt

117 posted on 03/02/2020 1:48:34 PM PST by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: Varsity Flight

Dead cat bounce.


118 posted on 03/02/2020 1:48:48 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: cgbg

Keep in mind that today’s fatality numbers correlate to LAST weeks case number. There is a week before being reported and death, on average.


119 posted on 03/02/2020 1:49:28 PM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: cgbg

OREGON

Oregon’s 3rd case, Wild Horse resort and casino in Pendleton. Casino is closed until further notice.


120 posted on 03/02/2020 1:49:48 PM PST by LilFarmer
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