CALIFORNIAFirst U.S. coronavirus case of unknown origin confirmed in Northern California, CDC says

Oh Dear, that’s so 2010.

Actually, if you look at the link source I posted, it is 2020 current information. The numbers of whites in San Francisco actually increased over the last ten years, while asians declined. Hard to believe, but true. Numbers of asians in SF Bay Area were above 23 percent in 2010 but declined to 19 percent by 2020.

When we sold my mom-in-law's home in SF recently, most of the potential buyers were white techies, and a white techie couple bought it. Latinos in the Mission District of SF (where I grew up) are complaining that whites are taking over the "traditionally" Mexican neighborhood; never mind that when I grew up there in the 1950s it was traditionally white (Irish/German/Italian). The whites are flooding in. As for the South Bay Area, yes a huge influx of Asians , many of which are Indian-American.

As far as Chinese people who are “Americanized”, that’s a relative term. Since virtually all of them came here after 1965, the “generations” you’re talking about are maybe two.

My wife is Chinese-American, born and raised in San Francisco. Her family presence here dates back to the 1890s. Chinatown in SF is not a new thing, been there from the beginnings around 1850, and following generations spread throughout the SF Bay Area. So your "virtually all" comment is not true.

That part is true. We all know that the stock options gang has been heading up 101 to the city for a little culture that you can’t find in Mountain View.

But as you noted, the reverse is happening on the Peninsula, and all the way to Gilroy for that matter.

It’s a matter of numbers.

The Chinese population at the time of the Exclusion Act was about 105000 I believe. The total population in 1880 was 865000-ish. So at the time of the cutoff, they were 12% of the population, heavily concentrated in Northern California.

But that population was lopsidedly male if you recall. They were contract laborers who ended up looking for work after the UP was finished and the mines played out. So “natural growth” was truncated, and exacerbated by the cutoff.

By 1920 the total population of California was 3.4 million and the total Chinese population could not be much larger even with the “paper sons” scam. So by 1920 they were ~ 3% of the population. And that didn’t change materially until 1965, even with the 1943 Act, since the 1924 Act ratcheted down non-Western European even more.

So my statement stands. With ~ 12 million Chinese now in the United States, the VAST majority have come in the last 50 years.

And using your favorite site, let’s look at Cupertino in the year 1970:

http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/cities/Cupertino70.htm

Note that there are (drumroll please) exactly 189 people of the Chinese race (self identified, of course) in that town, compared to 17552 white people, comprising 1% of the population for the Chinese and 96.4% for the Caucasians.

Kinda lopsided, you know?

Note the 1990 census shows the whites at 29913 and the Chinese at 5310, for a gain of 2700%, and the whites gaining by about 70%, although it was a decline from the 1980 census.

So uh...the Chinese in the South Bay were a tiny minority just 20 years earlier. As for SF, I remember Chinatown in the 60s. It was far smaller, and still was the biggest concentration in the area. I do remember all the hipsters in SF complaining about the expansion of Chinatown in the 1980s, which I thought was hilarious coming from people who styled themselves as cosmopolitan “world citizens”.

But it just proves my point. The post-’65 act immigration is by far the largest cohort of Chinese people in the United States. There were people who were here for generations - mainly in the SF and LA Chinatowns. But that was a small minority. I was not unaware of that when I made the statement, and factored it in. The numbers are not unfamiliar to me.

The Asian population of Cupertino was 36895 at the 2010 Census and does not break down Chinese vs anyone else. So it has to include South Asians, i.e., Indians. That total is now 63% of the population. Caucasians have declined (again) to 18270, and you can bet that the 2020 Census will show that even more.

So we can’t quickly compute the ratio of 1970 Chinese to 2010 Chinese in Cupertino, but it would undoubtedly be a huge number.

But once again, as of the current date, comparing to the numbers in 1880...or even 1920...or even 1970...the VAST majority have come in the last 50 years, and most in the last 40.

BTW, now that Asians outnumber Caucasians 2:1 in Cupertino as an example, can you tell me which part of China experienced a similar “demographic shift” that turned the existing population into a minority in the same time span? And what you think they might have done in the face of such a thing?

BTW, now that Asians outnumber Caucasians 2:1 in Cupertino as an example, can you tell me which part of China experienced a similar “demographic shift” that turned the existing population into a minority in the same time span?

Sadly, you ignore racist policies that caused concentrations of minorities in specific areas. Blatant forms of housing discrimination existed in many suburbs, including Cupertino, that were not corrected until the 1970s and thereafter. That created a shift of minorities into formerly all-white enclaves. I've seen neighborhood association rules personally, that forbid sale of homes to asians in Daly City and towns south of San Francisco, still in effect in the 1960s. You point to the Exclusion Act, but there were Jim Crow-like rules in effect many decades later. It is not just an influx of aliens coming into the country; it is also a sea-change in rules that allowed Asian-Americans to flow out of minority enclaves to suburbs in California.

Oh Please.

Deed Covenants were thrown out in 1948 with Shelley v. Kraemer.

There’s no doubt that prior to then that Asians were cooped up in “Chinatowns” by the restrictions, but there weren’t that many in any event. And that WAS due to the Exclusion Act, along with the 1924 Act.

But once again...that’s nothing compared to the tidal wave after 1965.

Deed Covenants were thrown out in 1948 with Shelley v. Kraemer.

Now you're exhibiting racist thinking. Supposedly, the Civil War's end stopped slavery and racism. Blacks knew better. Deed covenants were still being observed into the 1960s. If you are white you wouldn't notice. I know people who were discriminated against when it came to housing in the 1960s, even some in the 1980s (hint: they weren't white).

https://atlantablackstar.com/2018/04/22/undoing-dirty-deed-whites-language-restrictive-housing-covenants-remains-deeds-across-country/

“Now you’re exhibiting racist thinking”

So I’m guilty of WrongThink?

Hilarious.

Ima Waciss?

So’s the entire Chinese nation. All 1.6 billion of them.

That’s why nobody gets into their country except...them.

Ask the Uighurs.

This started with me pointing out that Corona would get here soon due to the significant numbers in the Bay Area.

This has now borne out: Newsom finally admitted the 8400 possible cases being tracked, and of course we now have two cases in NorCal, one in Santa Clara county. Utterly predictable. So in the time span this little thread has been up, my prediction came true.

And that’s it. Once you play the race card bubba, it’s sorry noodles. Seeya.

And that’s it. Once you play the race card bubba, it’s sorry noodles. Seeya.

You're the one playing the race card, and it points out your intolerance to other races. Look in the mirror and explain it to yourself. "Corona would get here soon due to significant numbers in the Bay Area." Come on, you know that's a race card to pull. The facts do not bear that out. Fact one: the government brought quarantined people to Travis Air Base. This had nothing to do with significant numbers of Asians in the Bay Area. Fact two: About Newsom "finally admitted the 8400 possible cases being tracked...". Do you know for a fact that those 8400 people are Asians? No, they are not. They are people who potentially were in close proximity to quarantine people. I have doctor and nurse acquaintances who are white, and some of them are in these areas of quarantine people. One is a nurse where a Corona patient is being treated; she will be chagrined that you think she isn't white. It's a good bet that the 8400 are largely white.

You exhibit a classic case of paranoia towards Asians, get over it.