Where are the 2019 numbers?
And how many have died or have become permanently disabled as a result of the flu shot.
Coronavirus is a bad flu-like cold. Some people in backwards countries like China get pneumonia and die.
Corona is the Y2k of viruses.
MORE LIKELY - The receptors on the coronavirus attack the lower respiratory track, (lungs), and leads to pneumonia. Influenza attacks the upper respiratory track (nose/throat) and seldom leads to pneumonia.
Pneumonia leads to reduction of oxygen to organs and often death.
It attacks cells in the lower respiratory system a d leafs to pneumonia.
It just reacts very aggressively on the elderly. Much worse than the flu on the elderly. It seems to cause less symptoms than the flu in the young.
Since reporting by locals to CDC is not mandatory and not supported by actual tests any figures are CDC derived fantasy figures to prop up vaccine manufacurers. CDC will come up with a 70,000 deaths figure soon as flu vaccine sales lag.
RE: Only 6515 Died from Flu in 2017
Those were US numbers. NOBODY has yet died of CoVid-2019 in the USA.
I’d like to know how many died of the Flu WORLDWIDE in 2017.
6,515 died?
No way.......it was 10s of millions.
And even THAT is only a FRACTION of how many will die from Corono.
“Question: Is the corona virus more likely or less likely to lead to pneumonia?”
I think more likely.
Note you mean this corona virus (or its related viruses SARS and MERS). There are a lot of other corona viruses, for example 15% of cold viruses are corona viruses.
Corona virus can be considered to produce two groups of symptoms 80% are asymptomatic or have a mild fever and cough. They can easily weather their symptoms at home and are encouraged to do so. People should stay away from hospitals if possible. And people should stay home (not go to work, or school) even with mild symptoms.
The second group of people which could be anywhere from 20% to 10%, will get full on flu symptoms including a coughing and fever. These people will get pneumonia. Most of them will be able to handle the pneumonia by gradually coughing up the fluids in their lungs over several weeks. But some will start to have low oxygen in their blood. This is the problem. They are highly contagious and they need some sort of oxygen quickly or they may die. The death rate is around one in a hundred. But its higher among the elderly and smokers. And its far less fatal among the young, especially children.
I have seen articles recently online that said we (U.S.) had 80,000 Flu deaths in 2018 (the average is 35-40,000), so I don’t see how these numbers square with the CDC
2017 data is irrelevant.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
CDC’s estimate of deaths from the old flu this year through 15 Feb 2020 to be: 16k - 41k.
Often the higher death rates occur in the latter part of February.
“Only 6515 Died”
That’s almost twice as many as were shot in Chicago in 2017.
https://www.vox.com/2018/9/27/17910318/flu-deaths-2018-epidemic-outbreak-shot
Article Says US had 80,000 Flu deaths in 2017-2018 season
Your comments should be below the line.
KNOWN to have died.
“I’m assuming’ - I wouldn’t go there. How can you possibly assume that?
“...55,000 died from influenza AND pneumonia. So I’m assuming out of that 6515 is flu and the rest in pneumonia.”
“According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), every year there are around 1 million Americans sent to the hospital with pneumonia, and about 50,000 die from the disease.” (5% die)
According to this, you would be correct.
So, when a year has passed or the number of deaths from COVID-19 can be projected for the year, remember to deduct 50,000 right off the top.
The drama, SHOCK, news media will not.
It’s more likely that the 6515 number is in error. That number does not appear in the report you linked to. Only 55,672 for “Influenza and pneumonia.”