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Posted on 02/26/2020 9:03:53 AM PST by DouglasKC
The CDC reports that only 6515 people in the United States died from Influenza.
Another chart contained in the pdf here:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr68/nvsr68_09-508.pdf
shows that 55,000 died from influenza AND pneumonia. So I'm assuming out of that 6515 is flu and the rest in pneumonia.
The flu can certainly lead to pneumonia which is why they may be grouped together. But not all pneumonia comes from the flu.
Question: Is the corona virus more likely or less likely to lead to pneumonia?
2017 data is irrelevant.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
CDC’s estimate of deaths from the old flu this year through 15 Feb 2020 to be: 16k - 41k.
Often the higher death rates occur in the latter part of February.
Glad they are getting better.
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“Only 6515 Died”
That’s almost twice as many as were shot in Chicago in 2017.
https://www.vox.com/2018/9/27/17910318/flu-deaths-2018-epidemic-outbreak-shot
Article Says US had 80,000 Flu deaths in 2017-2018 season
And the rates are tricky, because not everyone who gets the flu ends up going to a doc. And not everyone who goes to a doc with suspected flu gets tested and confirmed. Hospital admissions for it are routinely tested. And while dead bodies are easy to count, causation of death is not always clearly, uniformly determined.
These are likely grouped together as "influeneza and pneumonia". The cdc did the same thing for 2017 and it was 55,000 when it done that way.
I've heard it's been about 40-70,000 Flu deaths in the U.S. per year.
Why the CDC is now breaking out pneumonia deaths related to the Flu as not being the result of the Flu, I don't know.
Perhaps the Rosenweasel sister is up to more mischief.
Your comments should be below the line.
KNOWN to have died.
That sounds like the right neighborhood because added in to pneumonia (which is how they seem to mostly track deaths with flu) that would make it around 80 to 85 thousands combined which is a number that's thrown out.
Give the west the same 60-90 days as China has had before drawing conclusions - it started slow in China too with only a few sick and fewer dying - that’s the stage the west is in now.
Well it's from the CDC website. Looking at several places it seems that they often lump in pneumonia and flu deaths together even though pneumonia deaths are much higher.
2019-2020 - US deaths from flu AND flu-related: 61,000. 250,000 hospitalized.
Corona Virus - 3,000 dead, 80,000 hospitalized world wide
“I’m assuming’ - I wouldn’t go there. How can you possibly assume that?
Well since one page on the CDC website says that 6515 died from influenza and another page says that 55,000 died from influenza AND pneumonia I think it's a fair assumption to say that out of that 55,000 6515 of them are influenza and the rest are pneumonia. Do you have an alternate reading?
Sorry, I didn't think to search on ESTIMATES. I was looking at the numbers that they had on their website and 2017 WAS the last actual numbers. Nothing nefarious.
“...55,000 died from influenza AND pneumonia. So I’m assuming out of that 6515 is flu and the rest in pneumonia.”
“According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), every year there are around 1 million Americans sent to the hospital with pneumonia, and about 50,000 die from the disease.” (5% die)
According to this, you would be correct.
So, when a year has passed or the number of deaths from COVID-19 can be projected for the year, remember to deduct 50,000 right off the top.
The drama, SHOCK, news media will not.
AND if you want to compare COVID-19 to “the flu”, you would also have to take off another 20,000 to 30,000 to determine how bad it actually was.
In short, COVID-19 will be worse than the “flu” only if more than 70,000 to 80,000 people DIE from Corona virus in a year.
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