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Coronavirus Live Thread. Live Thread 1
2/23/2020

Posted on 02/23/2020 1:57:16 PM PST by Vermont Lt

Figured we would start numbering the threads.

Some points to keep in mind:

1. This thing is not “just the flu.” 2. 1/10th of the worlds population is in some sort of lockdown. 3. Generally, we don’t buy the Chinese numbers But if anything they are low. 4. Everyone is welcome to post, but don’t bore us with your “you are panicking” posts. They are tedious.

It’s Sunday night and the Walking Dead is back. Let’s talk Coronavirus.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: chinavirus; coronavirus; covid19; cvlivethread; dsj02; haironfire; livethread; panic; sarscov2
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To: Vermont Lt

CDC site, for those interested

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/clinical-criteria.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fclinical-criteria.html


21 posted on 02/23/2020 2:17:13 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: Jumper

You’ve got it figured out.

Elites WANT 10% fewer humans.

Regardless of how that has to happen.


22 posted on 02/23/2020 2:17:20 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: janetjanet998
Kuwait halts Iran flights over coronavirus
23 posted on 02/23/2020 2:17:55 PM PST by Oorang (Tyranny thrives where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: Vermont Lt

For the “It’s just the flu” bunch:

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/484276-coronavirus-outbreak-could-cause-shortages-of-150-drugs-report

The ending of meds for my dad will finish him off. I was on the cusp of telling him what was coming a week ago, but I figure his fate is now in God’s hands and scaring him would not do anything constructive (he’s the CNN type, so he thinks that all is well, or at least that big government will, somehow, come to the rescue, if needed).


24 posted on 02/23/2020 2:18:24 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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Pakistan, Turkey, Armenia close Iranian border, Afghanistan bans travel over coronavirus fears
25 posted on 02/23/2020 2:19:33 PM PST by Oorang (Tyranny thrives where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: BobL

... big government will, somehow, come to the rescue, if needed

RNA viruses are notoriously hard to develop vaccines for


26 posted on 02/23/2020 2:21:06 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: Vermont Lt

And more people are still dying from the regular strains of the flu.


27 posted on 02/23/2020 2:22:25 PM PST by Artcore (Trump 2020!)
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To: Vermont Lt

I’ve been following “Blazing Press”, “Shrimp Zoo”, and “ Dr. John Campbell” on YouTube. Anyone have any others?


28 posted on 02/23/2020 2:22:32 PM PST by Snowy
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To: Hojczyk

The flu kills 20,000 or so in the US every year out of 20 million or so cases. 0.1%

Heart disease kills 650,000 or so every year in the US out of (essentially) 20 million cases. 3.25%

We know this and expect it. We work to solve it and save/extend lives.

But now there is a threat that some new thing that is killing somewhere between 2 and 15 percent of the people that get it, fills up hospitals to the point they collapse when it runs rampant, is 4 or 5 times as contagious as the flu and kills at the same rate as heart disease (at least, but maybe as much as 5 times as lethal). Heart disease kills 1/4 of the people that die in the US every year. Imagine the Wuhanic Plague being added to the mix.

People that are not taking this seriously are fools.


29 posted on 02/23/2020 2:28:28 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Progressive Mafia.)
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To: Black Agnes

https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-coronavirus-has-temporarily-reduced-chinas-co2-emissions-by-a-quarter


30 posted on 02/23/2020 2:32:00 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Artcore

Clearly didn’t read the OP.


31 posted on 02/23/2020 2:32:59 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Progressive Mafia.)
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To: Artcore

Ok. No add on twice as many people in ICU beds.

You simply don’t get it.

It’s about a system being overwhelmed, not YOU dying. It’s about 750 million people being quarantined. Why do you think the Chinese did that? Why are there 7,000 people “self quarantined” in CA with nearly another thousand in WA and another thousand in GA?

The Chinese get the same flu we get. Have they ever done that before?

Don’t read this in a tone other than questions. You guys apply the panic tone where it’s not being used

Why are these actions unprecedented in human history...for “the flu.”

Do you think the Chinese are kidding? Honestly?


32 posted on 02/23/2020 2:33:29 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: janetjanet998

With thousands of people coming from Wusan from Dec15-Jan 15 entering multiple points in the US and traveling with no restrictions, some had to be infected with COVI19 virus. Yet there have been no reported major outbreaks in the US. Americans may be becoming ill but because of the lack of reliable diagnostic kits, the correct diagnosis is not being made. Also since there are at least 4 serologically distinct subtypes of coronavirus that cause serious respiratory other than COVID 19 and there is a lack of definitive diagnostic testing kits, really am dubious that the illness detected in Iran and Italy is COVID 19. Would question the CDC if they have definitive information on this issue.

Much more information is needed before anyone can say whether there will be an epidemic in the US.


33 posted on 02/23/2020 2:35:36 PM PST by allendale (.)
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To: mrsmith

Early levity post:

“Coronavirus in North Korea could be ‘much more lethal’ than in China, health experts warn.... “

Cause AA rounds blow you up!


34 posted on 02/23/2020 2:35:58 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Vermont Lt

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35 posted on 02/23/2020 2:36:07 PM PST by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: Vermont Lt

Here’s audio from a CDC covid19 question & answer session. https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/t0221-cdc-telebriefing-covid-19.mp3

At the 10 minute mark, she says the US may have to shut down schools, public events etc like Italy is doing.

Everyone should prepare accordingly. Rice and beans will keep you alive and are cheap. Store shelves are bare in certain parts of Italy. N95 mask supplies are running low here already and amazon/ebay sellers are price gouging.

And of course most people in fedgov and big city gov have the same mentality as the Puerto Rican gov people who hid FEMA supplies in warehouses just to blame Trump and make him look bad. Never let a crisis go to waste, the ends justify the means etc. And in an election year, they will think this is the opportunity of a lifetime.


36 posted on 02/23/2020 2:38:41 PM PST by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: Artcore

“And more people are still dying from the regular strains of the flu.”

That may no longer be the case in a few months.


37 posted on 02/23/2020 2:39:44 PM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: Vermont Lt

US manufacturing gets as much as 35% of its production components from China. 89% of THAT comes from provinces currently shut down.

This means at 31% of production components for US companies is NOT on its way to us factories.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/supply-chain-disruptions-impact-global-growth-570-billion-growing

From Bloomberg via ZH.

What is the average manufacturing warehouse in the US? A week? And the supply line is probably another week.

The Lunar New Year shutdown was a month ago. And since then almost nothing has left the docks of China, at least the major ports.

If US factories are not feeling this by the end of this week...they will in two weeks.

All this is happening whether or not we have a single case in this country.


38 posted on 02/23/2020 2:40:38 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

Good questions. Waiting for answers *crickets*


39 posted on 02/23/2020 2:40:54 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: Vermont Lt; BobL
In before the Mooninites.


40 posted on 02/23/2020 2:41:22 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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