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Coronavirus Live Weekend Thread.
2/22/20

Posted on 02/22/2020 7:03:34 AM PST by Vermont Lt

A forever thread is getting long. Perhaps a weekly thread?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: billionsinfected; chinavirus; coronavirus; covid19; cvlivethread; globaldoom; livethread; millionsdead; wuflu; wuhanflu; wuhansars
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To: blueplum

This year the Hajj is 2020, 30 July


561 posted on 02/23/2020 8:26:23 AM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Jane Long; blueplum; BobL
A lot more information for anyone interested. From the Anniston Star

In a conference call with reporters, HHS administrator Tom Bowman said potential evacuees would come from among passengers now quarantined at Travis Air Force Base in Fairfield, Calif., or Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio. He said that under the quarantine arrangement at those bases, evacuees couldn’t remain on site once they tested positive for the virus.

Kane said the evacuees will be housed in a CDP dormitory “to protect health, and at the same time, keep hospital beds open for people who actually need them,” such as people with serious cases of the flu.

A good, informative article.

Passengers from coronavirus-quarantined ship to be housed at Anniston FEMA center

So, they're bringing them from bases in California and Texas because those infected can't remain at those bases. Hmmm. And they'll be quarantined at the FEMA facility in a dormitory, probably one of the dorms normally used by people who are constantly coming and going at the facility for various sorts of training.

The more I learn, the weirder it sounds.

562 posted on 02/23/2020 8:27:52 AM PST by Will88 (The only people opposing voter ID are those benefiting from voter fraud.)
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To: janetjanet998

has this WA state website been posted?
as of Feb 22,
679 under ‘supervision’ including close contacts and those returning from China within 14 days

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Emergencies/Coronavirus


563 posted on 02/23/2020 8:27:56 AM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: BusterDog
In reality, their greatest fear is losing control, because they know how tenuous that control really is.

Well said.

+1

564 posted on 02/23/2020 8:30:40 AM PST by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: BobL

As far as stocks are concerned, AMZN may weather this well. Yes, they will experience supply chain disruptions, but - as people stay home and shop online - they have the distribution network to deliver goods to a hungry population.


565 posted on 02/23/2020 8:32:10 AM PST by bolobaby
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To: All
Bruce Porter, Jr.

@NetworksManager

Many young people not just older.. A 42-year-old doctor at a Chinese hospital near #Wuhan, Huang Wenjun has died due to #Covid19. He's the 2nd doctor to die in less than 24 hours. There are over 500 reported deaths of Chinese doctors, nurses+their families. #SARSCoV2 #Coronavirus

566 posted on 02/23/2020 8:33:20 AM PST by riri
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To: blueplum

Last week in Washington state the number under observation was 779, so apparently 100 of them have been released.


567 posted on 02/23/2020 8:40:05 AM PST by angry elephant (My MAGA cap is from a rally in Washingon state in May 2016)
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To: riri

Heart-breaking moment wife of Wuhan hospital chief who died of coronavirus wails and chases a van taking his body to a crematorium as she bids farewell to him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhat-bgZsLQ

His name was Liu Zhiming, Wuhan Wuchang hospital director . His wife is head of nursing and is working the ICU.


568 posted on 02/23/2020 8:47:41 AM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: blueplum
We are not recommending that people wear masks when they are in public. There is currently no evidence that the virus is spreading in Washington or anywhere in the United States so the health risk to the general public in Washington is low. Masks can be useful in some settings to prevent someone who has a respiratory illness from spreading it to others. That’s why we recommend that people who are sick put a mask on if they are waiting in a clinic.
People are walking around contagious for weeks and not knowing it but all the experts say no masks unless you're sick. stupido
569 posted on 02/23/2020 8:47:59 AM PST by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: All

BREAKING: Italy reports 3rd death from coronavirus


570 posted on 02/23/2020 8:49:30 AM PST by janetjanet998
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To: riri

“Americans are 100% not prepared for anything like what is happening in Korea, Italy or China. “

Obviously, I’m with you. Look at the 536, it shows the ‘suspected cases’ in South Korea - increased by 3500 yesterday, now over 25,000. At least they’re being truthful, rather than trying to ‘manage the disclosure of data’ to ‘avoid a panic’.

Interesting, are scenes today from the Costco (store) in Shanghai - packed with people, most virtually no masks on (I assume in part because none are available). Huge lines to just buy hot dogs. Maybe a death (or suffering) wish over there?


571 posted on 02/23/2020 8:54:41 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: ncdrumr

Heck, Afghanistan can’t keep out droves of well armed terrorists...


572 posted on 02/23/2020 9:18:21 AM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left wort h controlling.)
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To: Will88

think of what’s going on in SoKorea, we may need the space at Travis, March ARB, and Lackland for high risk dependents and I guess the base out in Alabama has some specialized containment buildings.

If we do start airlifting, the former McClellan AFB in Sacramento has a great flight line and 15-30 min by chopper to the best hospitals. There are still some barracks, O Club, headquarters buildings, unit buildings, massive hangers, etc., that could be repurposed. And its own water treatment plant (same as Mather). There’s also the BX, Commissary and gas station. I think the county has (part?) ownership now, but it’d hold thousands of people comfortably with room to jog. And I don’t think the veterans who shop the C would mind having to put shopping off for two or three weeks as long as they could still fill-up across the street.

Mather Field, decommissioned, has another great flight line used by FedX I think maybe UPS - it has (had?) a nice little golf course; not sure about the buildings. Some of the barracks were used for low-income at one point. And I think the former base housing has turned into real estate. It’s home to the Veteran’s hospital, tho. More on the fringe of east Sac whereas McClellan is just north of downtown. There’s the old Army Depot too, but that’s pretty much smack in the middle of the low income area (or was LI - been a while). Twenty-nine stumps down south is gi-normous, but the heat will move in by next month or so, whereas Sacramento won’t get real heat until early May.


573 posted on 02/23/2020 9:20:10 AM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: blueplum
"annual Japanese nude men mosh pit"


574 posted on 02/23/2020 9:22:42 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: janetjanet998

Italy details:

A third person infected with the coronavirus has died in Italy, a regional official said on Sunday, as the government struggles to contain an outbreak of the illness in the north of the country with more than 130 cases reported since Friday.Lombardy regional councilor Giulio Gallera told reporters the victim was an elderly woman from the town of Crema, east of Milan, who was also suffering from cancer. Two other elderly patients in northern Italy have died over the past 48 hours.

https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Italy-reports-third-coronavirus-death-618520

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Italy has placed a dozen towns in quarantine, closed schools and shut down the Venice Carnival following the deaths of three people from coronavirus.

Authorities in the northern regions of Lombardy and Veneto announced the measures as the number of confirmed cases in the country rose above 130.

Luca Zaia, governor of Veneto, said that coronavirus was “the absolutely worst problem” the region has faced during his career

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/coronavirus-italy-death-toll-venice-lombardy-quarantine-carnival-latest-a9353436.html


575 posted on 02/23/2020 9:23:05 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: blueplum

Man oh man I pray there are decision makers in logistics thinking the way you are. Calm, big picture, if-then...


576 posted on 02/23/2020 9:24:50 AM PST by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: All

BNO Newsroom
@BNODesk
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1m
NEW: Italy reports 23 new cases of coronavirus, or 76 so far today, raising total number of cases to 155


577 posted on 02/23/2020 9:27:35 AM PST by janetjanet998
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To: LilFarmer

UK updates:

NHS starts testing suspected coronavirus patients in their own homes

The move means ambulances can be kept in action instead of having to be deep-cleaned after every suspected case.
...

NHS staff, including nurses and paramedics, have been issued with home testing kits to stop people travelling with the infection to limit the spread of COVID-19.

https://news.sky.com/story/nhs-starts-testing-suspected-coronavirus-patients-in-their-own-homes-11939985

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CMO for England announces four new cases of novel coronavirus

Chief Medical Officer Professor Chris Whitty statement on four new cases of COVID-19 from the Diamond Princess

Four further patients in England have tested positive for COVID-19, bringing the total number of cases in the UK to thirteen.

The virus was passed on in the Diamond Princess cruise ship and the patients are being transferred from Arrowe Park to specialist NHS infection centres.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/cmo-for-england-announces-four-new-cases-of-novel-coronavirus


578 posted on 02/23/2020 9:28:05 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

Per Peter Sweden

BREAKING: Masses in city of Venice now suspended.

Earlier all religious services were suspended in Lombardy with 10 million inhabitants.

Italy is shutting down big time.


579 posted on 02/23/2020 9:28:07 AM PST by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: LilFarmer
Wow.

I posted the below on another thread, reposting here mostly for the initial question (source for the 19 new hospitals report?) and then it's mostly just me opining on "why" the hospitals, and where this epidemic might go in China...

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Reports saying China is building 19 new hospitals.

Can anyone confirm that from a reliable source? (It may be upthread and I missed it?)

Why if the cases are going down.

Not that I think the Chinese numbers can be trusted, but, even if those numbers just give some sense of trends, China has, what, maybe 100k infected people, plus "confirmed cases", "out there" at a minimum. Maybe it is more like half a million infections & cases not yet tabulated? That number should decline if they continue the strong confinement and quarantine actions, but they CAN'T go on with the country half shut down. That will lose them more people than the virus. Much less the other effects of a wrecked economy.

And, I do mean wrecked. No tiddledywinks "Great Depression" for you here...

So, even if they have this epidemic slowed at the moment, they have to "go back to work" making stuff, transporting it, and so on. That will lead to more cases -- remember that at present only a tiny fraction of the populace has been infected. China has to hope they can do some sort of tightrope act of slowing the virus without doing too much economic harm, and maybe accept, say, the equivalent of a very bad flu year x 5, on top of other health care needs, on an ongoing basis. If a vaccine can be developed, maybe that gets things down to a 2x very bad flu year added on, per year.

But, just consider: Even if all you want is to not lose too many of your professional class and Party members, how many new hospitals would that take in a country of 1.3 billion people?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3818748/posts?page=21#21

580 posted on 02/23/2020 9:31:08 AM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left wort h controlling.)
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