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Coronavirus Live Thread 2/11 to 2/12

Posted on 02/11/2020 5:11:45 PM PST by Vermont Lt

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To: bgill

Yes. We are this early on in facing it. Not reassuring for when it hits the country full force.


141 posted on 02/12/2020 12:31:53 PM PST by 444Flyer (John 3 Revelation 20 Joshua 24:15 Pick a side..)
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To: SE Mom; All

If the health care system in Hubei province is overwhelmed, I’d think the deaths from pneumonia (no further cause listed) and for that matter, for flu, would jump. But is that sort of information even available?


142 posted on 02/12/2020 12:32:40 PM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: LilFarmer

The lack of training and supplies is, as someone there posted is “butt-clenchingly terrifying.”


143 posted on 02/12/2020 12:34:08 PM PST by bgill
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To: bgill

Yep.

Putting this here because of the unspecified other illnesses.

JOHNSON COUNTY, Texas (CBSDFW.COM) – A North Texas school district closed its doors early Tuesday and for the rest of the week due to the flu and other illnesses, the district announced.
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Interim Superintendent Tony Martin says they will do a deep disinfectant and sanitize all hard surfaces, common areas, classrooms and buses during the next two days.
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The district did not give an exact reason for the closing, other than to say it is because of the flu and other unspecified illnesses. It’s unknown if there’s an outbreak of the flu at the district’s schools.

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/02/11/rio-vista-isd-johnson-county-texas-closing-rest-of-week-flu/


144 posted on 02/12/2020 12:37:42 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: blueplum

Thanks. Useful. Making written notes.


145 posted on 02/12/2020 12:53:53 PM PST by bgill
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To: blueplum

Leather making. Brilliant. Nothing better than using sharp instruments that cause bleeding.


146 posted on 02/12/2020 1:01:01 PM PST by bgill
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To: bgill

James Woods
@RealJamesWoods
Is this how the world will end? National health “doctors” in Hazmat suits teaching dance routines to victims of a virus leaked from a bioweapons lab? #WuhanVirus #CoronaVirus

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1227654587844186112


147 posted on 02/12/2020 1:06:32 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: Paul R.

I don’t believe there is an answer to your question. China’s numbers are unreliable, inaccurate and I’m not as interested in them as I was. I watch what they DO.

Uneasy days.


148 posted on 02/12/2020 1:09:03 PM PST by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: All

2/12/20

“Labeling mix-up led to coronavirus patient’s accidental release, officials say”

https://www.foxnews.com/health/labeling-mix-up-led-to-coronavirus-patients-release-officials-say

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Dr. Hackenbush’s record department:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Marx+Brothers+Harpo+as+doctor+youtube&view=detail&mid=FE4C8D6E8011B3580E38FE4C8D6E8011B3580E38&FORM=VIRE


149 posted on 02/12/2020 1:11:01 PM PST by 444Flyer (John 3 Revelation 20 Joshua 24:15 Pick a side..)
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To: 444Flyer

We’re only 10 days out of the Super Bowl. We may have just squeaked past that event.


150 posted on 02/12/2020 1:11:56 PM PST by bgill
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To: bgill

Scott Gottlieb, MD
@ScottGottliebMD
Data from case series of #coronavirus so far consistently show that age distribution of more severe disease skews younger than influenza with clustering around the 20-40 age cohort. Charts by
@AEI
based on these #COVID19 reports https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.10.20021675v1.full.pdf
and https://thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext


151 posted on 02/12/2020 1:22:07 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer


152 posted on 02/12/2020 1:25:00 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: PA Engineer

A poster, InklingBooks
over on a thread at Instapundit, writes:

I’m not a doctor, but based on this remark in the Live Science article about the relatively few children who’re victims of the Corona virus I will hazard a guess that extends what it says in this remark.

The innate immune system is the first line of defense against pathogens. Cells in that system respond immediately to foreign invaders. (The adaptive immune system, by contrast, learns to recognize specific pathogens, but takes longer to join the battle.) If the innate immune response is stronger in children exposed to 2019 nCoV, they may fight off infection more readily than adults, suffering only mild symptoms.

https://disq.us/url?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.livescience.com%2Fwhy-kids-missing-coronavirus-cases.html%3AdCiN90AlcxcILg0U95Xc0zMfLKI&cuid=4235850

It seems sensible to assume that the innate immune system protecting a child’s lungs must be more effective than that in adults. Their breathing passages are shorter and their adaptive immune system has yet to learn what pathogens to fight. That stronger innate immune response (attacking anything foreign) may give them added protection against a virus like the Corona.

One peculiarity of the Corona virus is that its infection must plant itself well inside our lungs. Throat swabs often fail to detect it. That contrasts with many other viral infections that first settle in our throats and then move to our lungs. A throat infection is uncomfortable but not deadly and gives our adaptive immune system to prepare to fight it before it reaches our lungs, where it can be lethal. Because the Corona virus bypasses our throat and infects our lungs directly, the response of our adaptive immune system is delayed.

Of course, there’s also another factor suggested by the article, that the immune system of adults overreacts to a Corona virus infection, making matters worse.

Adults are also more susceptible to a detrimental immune response that causes a condition called acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), said Dr. James Cherry, a professor of pediatrics and infectious diseases at UCLA’s Geffen School of Medicine. A complicated imbalance of immune cell activity sends inflammation into the lungs into overdrive, ultimately causing fluid to fill the alveoli, or air sacs, according to research published in the journal Annals of Translational Medicine

ARDS is the primary way that the Corona kills.

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Also consider Antibody-Dependent -Enhancement, which I found explained on another post from ZeroHedge (I know, I know) and which I posted here:
http://freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=3814901,64


153 posted on 02/12/2020 1:26:35 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: LilFarmer

S.H.!.T.


154 posted on 02/12/2020 1:27:43 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: LilFarmer

S.H.!.T.
Sustained
Human
!
Transmission


155 posted on 02/12/2020 1:28:09 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: LilFarmer
"alleviate concerns"

Did they spell "cover-up" wrong?

156 posted on 02/12/2020 1:29:16 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: 444Flyer

Okay—19,994 Russians...


157 posted on 02/12/2020 1:33:02 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: LilFarmer

Interesting and consistent with cytokine storms and healthy immune systems.


158 posted on 02/12/2020 1:39:57 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Thanks.


159 posted on 02/12/2020 1:42:08 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: PA Engineer; RummyChick; LilFarmer

cott Gottlieb, MD
@ScottGottliebMD
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23m
Some evidence #COVID19 causes aberrant host immune responses that are associated with severe lung pathology and ARDS type outcome that’s also correlated with a cytokine release. It could be younger patients are more likely to mount vigorous immune response


160 posted on 02/12/2020 1:44:48 PM PST by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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