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Coronavirus Live Thread Feb 8, 2020
Agenda Free TV ^ | 2/8/2020

Posted on 02/08/2020 3:06:57 PM PST by Vermont Lt

BREAKING: Epicenter of coronavirus outbreak reports 2,147 new cases and 81 new deaths.

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37,567 confirmed cases worldwide, including 813 fatalities.
Hubei province
(including Wuhan) 27,100 Cases ... 780 Deaths

356 cases outside China, Still 2 deaths (1 Hong Kong, 1 Philippines)


101 posted on 02/08/2020 9:10:39 PM PST by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Ping!


102 posted on 02/08/2020 9:18:22 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Can we assume people living in high rise buildings are doing the equivalent of living on a quarantined cruise ship if ONE person in the building is infected?

http://www.tinyurl.com/cvirusmap

Half a click... like a fourth of a mile away? (a kick being one kilometer...)


103 posted on 02/08/2020 9:20:34 PM PST by GOPJ ( http://www.tinyurl.com/cvirusmap https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/usmap.htm)
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To: DoughtyOne

The real estimated fatality rate is now down to about 24 percent. That’s encouraging, considering it was above 40 percent recently.


104 posted on 02/08/2020 9:21:25 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: PIF

I guess we should simply wait for the US government to spoon feed us their numbers.

Do you think they are going to be any more truthful? Because they have a great history of that.


105 posted on 02/08/2020 9:23:22 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: GOPJ

Something like that, yes.


106 posted on 02/08/2020 9:24:01 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: LilFarmer

I hope he wasn’t stored next to the melons.


107 posted on 02/08/2020 9:24:43 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Black Agnes

“One of the comments said we knew about Chernobyl by the radiation that appeared in Western Europe.”

I tell people that story. It was Swedish nuclear plant workers. They wore radiation badges and they were triggering. So the swept the hell out of their plants and found they were perfectly clean.

...then they determined that the badges were being lit up from outside radiation, which was later found to be Chernobyl.

A lot of Europeans would have gotten a lot sicker from raditation, if Sweden DID NOT have a nuke program. Funny how that works, sometimes.


108 posted on 02/08/2020 9:28:45 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Mike Adams does the math based on official "good news" from the Chinese government. Base on his analysis, 17% is the mortality rate in China. See the article, DO THE MATH: China holds “good news” press conference, accidentally admits the coronavirus mortality rate is closer to 17 per cent.
109 posted on 02/08/2020 9:33:04 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: BobL

True.

I remember when that happened. Everybody finger pointed until they all looked at Russia...


110 posted on 02/08/2020 9:33:38 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Myrddin

One of those times I’m glad to be wrong.


111 posted on 02/08/2020 9:44:51 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: Black Agnes
Drifting 400 meters from the source as a aerosol ensures passing the infection inside any closed spaces. HVAC will circulate it though the building as the filters are inadequate for particles that small. It will be very hard to avoid.
112 posted on 02/08/2020 9:44:54 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: LucyT; Black Agnes
I have a link to earth.nullschool.net configured to observe sulfate particulates over China. See for yourself.
113 posted on 02/08/2020 9:52:06 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: LilFarmer

https://twitter.com/nvanderklippe/status/1226371290958835712
FWIW. Maybe.


114 posted on 02/08/2020 10:08:29 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Myrddin

looks to be high for a region that’s basically shut down now.


115 posted on 02/08/2020 10:09:06 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
At the 21:43 PST report, it was 23.02%.

It has been dropping like a rock now that people are starting to recover. On the 27th it was 62.94%.

I don't consider that any more accurate than what I was first doing, comparing deaths to the documented cases.

Imagine reporting out a 62.94% mortality rate. People would drop dead just hearing the number.

Within 3-5 days, the mortality rate will be close to 10% and still dropping.

Daily new cases that were at 35.38% on the 28th, are now at 7.63%.

I came up with an "active cases" category, by taking the documented cases and subtracting the fatality and recovered numbers.

For the last four days that number has increased as follows.

DT  ACTIVE  INCREASE
    
05: 26,517  3,400
06: 29,246  2,729
07: 32,041  2,795
08: 34,018  1,977  58.15%

Notice the drop off in the size of the increases each day?

In three days the daily increase in remaining active documented cases has dropped 42.85%.

In less than a week it's likely the number of active documented cases will start dropping each day, even thought some new cases will be documented each day.

We're still losing people, so this isn't great news, but we are beginning to see things clearly turn in a good direction.

116 posted on 02/08/2020 10:25:47 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Time to up our FR Monthlies by 5-10%. You'll < hardly miss it and it will help.)
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BNO Newsroom
@BNODesk
Several more people have fallen ill on the cruise ship near Tokyo and will be taken to hospital; the cause is not yet known but dozens will be tested for coronavirus - NHK


117 posted on 02/08/2020 10:32:59 PM PST by janetjanet998
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To: Black Agnes

“So someone can open a window half a click away and I can contract #coronavirus. That’s basically what these experts in China are saying.”

That isn’t the case (except in a fictional account) because an adequate viral load needs to be present. The number of virions entering your body has to be sufficient to result in an infection. A single viral particle won’t do it.

Once I saw data in tabular form showing estimates of how many pathogen units were required to cause an infection for different diseases. I think airborne anthrax had the fewest with just a few spores. Viral diseases required far more particles.


118 posted on 02/08/2020 10:44:40 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: steve86

Let’s hope this was hyperbole.

But it IS airborne and that would explain the warning to turn off the central heat in the big apartment buildings.

They’ve got to be miserable in there by now.


119 posted on 02/08/2020 10:49:08 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: janetjanet998

BNO Newsroom
@BNODesk
Princess Cruises sent a press release more than an hour ago saying there are 6 “additional” cases of coronavirus on the ship near Tokyo. No confirmation yet from the Japanese government.


120 posted on 02/08/2020 11:01:43 PM PST by janetjanet998
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