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Is it safe to speak the truth about Kobe Bryant?
NY Post ^ | February 8, 2020 | 3:17pm | Phil Mushnick

Posted on 02/08/2020 1:41:28 PM PST by conservative98

Can we come out now? Is it safe, yet, to speak or write the truth? Or is it still too soon?

Since the sudden, tragic death of Kobe Bryant two weeks ago, I’ve thought of the many men who, in just the past three years, have had their careers and reputations destroyed or seriously stained by allegations of sexual harassment or assault.

Among them: Actors Scott Baio, Gerard Depardieu, Morgan Freeman. In TV, Tavis Smiley, Les Moonves, Matt Lauer. Noted astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson, famous chef Mario Batali, opera star Placido Domingo. Minnesota Senator/comedian Al Franken was forced to resign over harassment allegations.

Some accusations are of alleged acts decades old.

Guilty as alleged? Who knows? But the accusations will chase them the rest of their lives.

Thus I wonder what their thoughts are on the instant and continuing posthumous deification of Bryant.

Two weeks after Bryant’s death, it’s still considered outrageously inappropriate to publicly state what we do know: He had a flip side. In 2003 he was forced to essentially admit his actions were unwelcomed by the 19-year-old.

Already a seven-year-pro, Bryant, in Colorado for physical rehab, was arrested after a teenaged hotel/spa worker claimed he raped her. Bryant, married, admitted to having had sex with her but by mutual consent.

The criminal case was dropped by prosecutors, when the accuser chose not to testify. The civil case was settled out of court, as Bryant reached a financial agreement with his accuser. But Bryant was bound to make the following statement, which began with:

“First, I want to apologize to the young woman involved in this incident. I want to apologize to her for my behavior that night and the consequences she has suffered in the last year.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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To: MHGinTN

It’s a good expose and predates his death.


21 posted on 02/08/2020 2:11:44 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: RummyChick

Rhwetorical question: Would the times between the charged acts and the death with his daughter and friends be taken into account, with the religious oriented behavior?


22 posted on 02/08/2020 2:14:38 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

So you would give Weinstein a pass and no one allowed to say anything if he starts going to Church and dies in 20 years later.

I don’t care if you get religion. Your acts are your acts and are fair game. You did what you did even if you repented before you died in a helicopter. Assuming he did.

He raped a woman. That is part of his legacy..as is all the rest. Good and bad


23 posted on 02/08/2020 2:20:30 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Michael.SF.

I concur that it was consensual until the “no” factor came into effect. KB wanted what the woman did not want to give.


24 posted on 02/08/2020 2:20:59 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: conservative98

No fan of Kobe, but the “rape” charge struck me as a money grab and 15 minutes of fame gambit.


25 posted on 02/08/2020 2:24:44 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: conservative98

My question for idiots like this is why are you bringing this up?

My only answer is you’re some racist idiot


26 posted on 02/08/2020 2:30:01 PM PST by Truthoverpower (The guv mint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: StolarStorm

There was something “there”. Read his “pr” statement.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/lakers/2020/01/31/kobe-bryant-accuser-who-claimed-was-raped-wont-speak-publicly/4622924002/


27 posted on 02/08/2020 2:30:45 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: conservative98

Today, the truth, unlike in slander, is no defense when it comes to race and racism.

This applies to any liberal Black.


28 posted on 02/08/2020 2:31:50 PM PST by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: MHGinTN
If we are going to be sad over Kobe's death let it be for his lost chances to truly repent and get born again.

Sure, but how do you know? What does “truly repent and get born again” mean?

“Born again”? How do you know he wasn’t born again and then judge him and his faith prior to his death one way or the other?

But yes, I hope that we all “truly repent and get born again” all the time, as often and as many times as it takes, 24/7.

The world is a harsh mistress and a harsher landlord.

29 posted on 02/08/2020 2:37:19 PM PST by GBA (Here in the matrix, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.)
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To: RummyChick

I remember other tidbits. For example, her escapades right after the “rape.” They found semen from three men in her. Three other than Kobe. I suspect she was probably a “for hire.” Yes, when I first heard about it... I assumed he was guilty... but her actions and history persuaded me that there was a lot more going on. I also understand why he paid her off and made the statement he did. It’s almost impossible to defend against a false rape charge.


30 posted on 02/08/2020 2:38:43 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: conservative98

He raped her. He’s no hero. If he repented and turned his life around before he died, GREAT.

Still no hero or role model. He’s dead of his own doing, just like JFK Junior.

Taking unnecessary chances with other peoples lives as well as your own.

He was a rapist and a fool who killed people, who played BASKETBALL!

Am I supposed to care? Should you?


31 posted on 02/08/2020 2:42:06 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: RummyChick

rhetorical question..would you say the same about Weinstein if he goes to Church..or Cosby getting religion in jail?

Would no one be allowed to talk about their terrible behavior??? Rhetorical, again.

If they repent and give themselves to Christ, its forgotten by Christ. If ones goal is to be Christ like, what do you have to gain re-destroying those that repent? Honestly, by your standards, St. Paul is a total scumbag right?. I mean he persecuted and killed Christians, yet God used him to bring people towards the light. Thats what you should focus on Rummy. Building up is hard. Tearing down is easy, Forgiving is hard, vengence is easy.


32 posted on 02/08/2020 2:48:18 PM PST by Bommer (2020 - Vote all incumbent congressmen and senators out! VOTE THE BUMS OUT!!!)
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To: StolarStorm

If I was a rich celebrity I would make people sign a document and record it before having sex. Not kidding.If it killed the mood..so what. Better than going to jail or having to pay someone off.


33 posted on 02/08/2020 2:49:27 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Bommer

I believe in being responsible for your acts. ALL OF THEM.

If you are a drunken drug addicted theif who murders...and then suddenly gets religion...your acts are still your acts.


34 posted on 02/08/2020 2:51:05 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: All

Oprahs BFF brought it up and Snoop Dog is ready to kill her. So I guess it’s not OK.


35 posted on 02/08/2020 2:58:16 PM PST by gibsonguy
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To: RummyChick
Yep! I've warned my son over and over to be very careful. I personally follow the Mike Pence rule after witnessing false accusations (of harassment) against coworkers. I was a witness to the falseness of the claims in two cases.

It's become an epidemic and sets a terrible precedent. Horrifying for real victims as they will be questioned when they need support. Heck, maybe Kobe did rape her... and I'm completly wrong ... but that's another side effect of witnessing a lot of false charges. I've seen so much deceit I've become jaded.
36 posted on 02/08/2020 3:02:28 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: conservative98
Well, now it appears right and wrong are not determined by any moral standard but by a person's status, wealth and constituency and whether that support group has the will and the power to kill you. Interesting.
37 posted on 02/08/2020 3:04:33 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MHGinTN
Let God sort him out.

Since God created his soul--yes, let God sort him out.
By now Kobe HAS met his Maker...for good or for bad.

38 posted on 02/08/2020 3:09:13 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Well, now it appears right and wrong are not determined by any moral standard but by a person's status, wealth and constituency and whether that support group has the will and the power to kill you. Interesting.

So what else is new in the human race?
The rich and powerful ALWAYS had all the control.

39 posted on 02/08/2020 3:10:48 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cgbg

He was a Christian that believed correctly that Jesus died for his sins (alleged rape)


40 posted on 02/08/2020 3:11:06 PM PST by Jolla
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