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2nd person-to-person transmission of coronavirus reported in US [California]
MSN ^ | 02/02/2020

Posted on 02/02/2020 10:17:02 PM PST by BenLurkin

The husband, from San Benito County, California, recently traveled to Wuhan, China, the center of the virus' outbreak, and apparently passed the disease to his wife, who did not go to China. Both 57, neither has been hospitalized, but they have also not left their home.

The couple's diagnosis brings the total number of positive cases in the United States to 11. The ninth case in the country, in Santa Clara County, California, was announced Sunday afternoon. The other human-to-human transmission was also between a husband and wife and was announced last week in Illinois.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: california
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1 posted on 02/02/2020 10:17:02 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Numerous examples with this virus...with people in good health getting serious symptoms for roughly 48 hours, and then all symptoms disappear by 4th day. Key thing is age and good health. If you have lung issues or weakened immune system, it’s pretty nasty.


2 posted on 02/02/2020 10:22:12 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

The first US case was young, in his 30s, and he’s still in the hospital.


3 posted on 02/02/2020 10:25:54 PM PST by datura
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To: BenLurkin

Wait til it hits that homeless population.


4 posted on 02/02/2020 11:00:18 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: BenLurkin

At some point, probably pretty soon, it’s going to be impossible to control. At around a 2%-4% mortality rate, not exactly the Black Death. But that still makes it the worst thing since.


5 posted on 02/02/2020 11:12:42 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: BenLurkin

has anyone seen the date of when this guy returned, or any other Wuhan return dates? The Philippine case was Jan 21 travel - about the time that rumors of a total lockdown were circulating in Wuhan and the highway going south was jammed with ppl fleeing the quarantine.


6 posted on 02/03/2020 1:18:42 AM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: blueplum

The arrivals from China are the vectors, and their numbers should be decreasing.

If the US government is allowed by Congress and the courts to carry out policy as presently declared, for even a month, we will escape the worst.


7 posted on 02/03/2020 2:00:06 AM PST by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: datura

But he’s not dead and NO ONE has died from this outside China if I’m right, so it seems like a bad virus that might or might not end you up in the hospital where you’ll get treated and unless you’re old or already sick, and leave.

Sorry bored folks and End of Days..this isn’t the end of the world.

I get bored too. I took up model airplanes :)


8 posted on 02/03/2020 2:32:44 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point do you at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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But he’s not dead and NO ONE has died from this outside China if I’m right, so it seems like a bad virus that might or might not end you up in the hospital where you’ll get treated and unless you’re old or already sick, and leave.

The one confirmed death outside China was in the Philippines. A 44 year old male. WHO Source announcement

9 posted on 02/03/2020 3:25:26 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: datura

Was he otherwise compromised? How long did he have symptoms before getting help?
I start with Mucinex at the first sign of anything to try to keep my lungs from clogging up.


10 posted on 02/03/2020 4:38:19 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: dp0622

Yep - and we don’t seem to have anyone but live-in companions having it transmitted to them.


11 posted on 02/03/2020 4:39:55 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: BenLurkin
I remember when person-to-person was a kind of phone call.

ML/NJ

12 posted on 02/03/2020 5:03:18 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: datura

What seems to happen is, get virus, get symptoms for a few days, ‘recover’ but continue to have virus, collapse with pneumonia 10-14d later.


13 posted on 02/03/2020 5:07:45 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: trebb

Not otherwise compromised.

Healthy non smoking 35yr old male.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2001191

Free paper from New England Journal of Medicine on that case. It’s just a case study, no politics.

AFAIK we still haven’t listed him as ‘recovered’ and AFAIK he’s still in the hospital.

He wasn’t desperately ill when he sought medical care, just knew he’d had sniffly cold symptoms and had been in Wuhan.

Developed pneumonia even though we had him on serious IV antibiotics and would have died or still been very seriously ill w/o the experimental compound we gave him.

Fortunately it doesn’t appear as though he spread this to anyone and for that we can be very thankful.


14 posted on 02/03/2020 5:11:02 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: ml/nj

Oh honey, I remember party lines.


15 posted on 02/03/2020 5:11:49 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Jim Noble

The arrivals from China should be decreasing, yes. If there are no flights out of China to anywhere.

When Wuhan ppl first heard about restrictions, tens of thousands diddybopped south and out to distant points (besides the 5 mil the mayor told us about). Undoubtedly some came or returned to the Western World because they felt their chances were better anywhere but China. Well, a lot of people in say, India or Vietnam, or wherever, will have the same idea. So the threat from China could be over, but that leaves the other 20 countries. The danger element rose when 2 children, age 2 and 11, were hospitalized in Kalua Lampur, showing the Wuhan infant and 9yo cases weren’t just a one-off. (Jan 24th the ‘youngest’ patient was 34)

Ebola first appeared in 1976. It didn’t spread widely because of the remoteness and poverty of the outbreak area. 40 years later, it’s still burning through Congo. CV is no longer ‘remote’. It’s been said the CV of newer cases haven’t differed from the first. We might be able to count on it mutating itself into salt, but it’s staying stable for now - good for vaccine development, bad for prognosis. So, dependent on the infection rates in other countries and how they handle quarantine, there’s a strong possibility we’ll need to continue extreme entry screening well beyond one month.

We’ll need fast, accurate and plentiful testing kits and close monitoring of flights into Mexico and Canada. And we’ve got to find a treatment or we’ll need a mandatory vaccine program concentrated in states with a large and fluid foreign pop. along with intensive public education campaigns in the minority enclaves of America. Old people dying is one thing; if this thing goes after kids, which are any nation’s legacy, that’s a whole new ballgame because we’re blind as to long-term effects. And that makes me just a little paranoid.


16 posted on 02/03/2020 5:41:43 AM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: Black Agnes

Thanks - I’ve know other healthy folks with a susceptibility to bronchitis and other pulmonary ailments - had childhood asthma myself but don’t generally suffer from much if I get a head start with Mucinex and such at first signs of possible cold, etc.
He seems to be an exception for his condition/age group but we still don’t know the demographics in China itself.


17 posted on 02/03/2020 6:16:14 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: trebb

I don’t believe really anything out of China except the travel restrictions, entire provinces quarantined, etc.

If this thing WERE attacking the young and healthy I wouldn’t expect the chicoms to admit that. From a military preparedness, intel standpoint.


18 posted on 02/03/2020 6:26:35 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes
Oh honey, I remember party lines.

So do I, Some of my friends had them. We didn't have dial phones until 1957. You'd pick up the phone and an operator would say, "Number pleeaz." (For most of my calls, I would just tell her four digits.)

ML/NJ

19 posted on 02/03/2020 6:28:34 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj

I don’t remember that far back.

But dial phones were pretty much all you had when I was a kiddo, only rich kids/people had the fancy punch number phones.


20 posted on 02/03/2020 6:30:22 AM PST by Black Agnes
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