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Parents of Cornell freshman found dead at bottom of a gorge after 'dirty rush' hazing night sue the college for turning blind eye and describe the seven rounds of binge-drinking games he was forced to endure
UK Daily Mail ^ | January 30, 2020 | Jennifer Smith

Posted on 01/30/2020 1:12:17 PM PST by C19fan

The parents of a Cornell freshman who was found dead at the bottom of a gorge after a hazing prank are suing the college and the fraternity he was joining the night he died.

Antonio Tsialas died in October last year after a night of brutal drinking and hazing with Phi Kappa Psi fraternity house in Ithaca, New York, at a 'Christmas in October' party.

His body was found in a gorge and he had high levels of alcohol in his system but his family's attorney says his cause of death was multiple blunt force trauma to the body. They do not know how he sustained it.

In a lawsuit filed on Tuesday, his parents accuse the university of turning a blind eye to the school's hazing culture and they name many of the fraternity's members, claiming they did nothing to save their son's life.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: alcohol; college; crime; education; fraternities; hazing; university; wod
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To: canuck_conservative; Not A Snowbird
that sounds like what happened here

Glad you were able to divine the reality of the situation from a newspaper article. Have you spoken with Ithaca Police? I’m sure they’ll want to know the truth.

Oh, BTW, violent rape and frat initiations are NOT the same thing.

21 posted on 01/30/2020 1:38:31 PM PST by PGR88
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To: C19fan

Indeed, sorry, he accepted this garbage.

That said, it IS garbage. I don’t know why these “collegiate” CHILDREN act this way. Is this a way to act out the urge to be cruel and violent to people in a “legal” fashion? Disguise it as a club brotherhood?

I also will never understand the obsession with drunkeness. Alcohol, all important. We are an alcoholic society, obsessed with “drinks”.


22 posted on 01/30/2020 1:44:51 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: pnut22

Yup.


23 posted on 01/30/2020 1:46:01 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: Ron H.

They can be real bastards, though.


24 posted on 01/30/2020 1:46:57 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: canuck_conservative

That’s a pretty good straw argument. I’m sure there is a rape thread on FR somewhere that you can throw your views into.

But it has nothing to with what is being discussed on this thread.

You don’t have any clue “what happened here”

Fraternities have been getting much cleaner over the past several decades. What you are describing may have been the rule from the 1950s to the 1980s but it is significantly different today.

What else has changed is the press each of these incidents garner.

Now, these incidents are big news because they are so rare.

What is not news is the large number of non fraternity kids that die on college campuses from drugs and alcohol. But those deaths don’t fit the overall story line.


25 posted on 01/30/2020 1:47:31 PM PST by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: Hyman Roth
Nothing worse than Frat boys.

.....and Sorority girls can be just as bad if not worse in their own way.

26 posted on 01/30/2020 1:48:00 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: deport

I belonged to a frat at Cornell.
Phi Kappa Psi was probably the most popular amongst the 50 or so fraternities.

Cornell has two gorges that run through campus - one gorge is fairly close to Phi Kappa Psi. The one you are showing is not.

There is no hazing in October...hazing occurs in the spring. October is the time when Freshmen “rush” fraternities (explore whether or not to join)

The drinking age is 21. The frat should not have allowed a freshman to drink.

It is fairly difficult to accidentally fall into a gorge at Cornell - there are several suicides each year by people that deliberately jump into a gorge. There are measures in place to prevent such suicides, but if someone wants to kill themselves bad enough they can.


27 posted on 01/30/2020 1:54:13 PM PST by kidd
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To: Not A Snowbird
There is a major difference between peer pressure of a fraternity and a violent rape attack.

Anyone with half a brain can conclude that FWIW.

28 posted on 01/30/2020 1:54:50 PM PST by Ron H. (Gab.com)
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To: deport

Looks like Transylvania


29 posted on 01/30/2020 2:05:07 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: PGR88

Have YOU spoken with the Ithaca police?

So YOU have definite proof that the fraternity is totally innocent?

Of course not.

Neither of us knows. But I have enough common sense to know that something smells fishy here


30 posted on 01/30/2020 2:06:12 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

Utter garbage.

The young man was old enough to know better than to engage in such idiocy.


31 posted on 01/30/2020 2:07:47 PM PST by Conserv ( b)
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To: kidd

Thanks for the reply. I’m not familiar with the area or topical features.
What is that structure on the right that shows some windows,
openings and bldg up top? Is that pump station and water pipes
crossing the water or is that a road/cross way?

The foliage is beautiful so it must be fall time of the year.


32 posted on 01/30/2020 2:13:22 PM PST by deport
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To: C19fan

Teach your children to belong to themselves, not to be outer-directed, but inner-directed.

Give them a jaundiced eye concerning groups & mobs.


33 posted on 01/30/2020 2:13:33 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: Conserv
The young man was old enough to know better

Excuse me? He was EIGHTEEN. At eighteen, most people know nothing about the World and how it operates, and who you can and cannot trust - that takes years to figure out.

So he was trusting the adults around him, and they jacked him over.

BTW, how come no one is making a big deal about a fraternity plying someone under-21 with liquor??

People don't just die violently for no reason ... if it was YOUR 18-year-son killed you'd be pissed too, not offering dumb platitudes


34 posted on 01/30/2020 2:20:21 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

You mean Ithaca. The city of EVIL?

CC


35 posted on 01/30/2020 2:25:04 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV)
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To: shanover

Mean Girls. ...I think women are worse then men at hazing.


36 posted on 01/30/2020 2:25:28 PM PST by redshawk ( I want my red balloon. ( https://youtu.be/V12H2mteniE))
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To: C19fan
high levels of alcohol in his system

We need to ban this dangerous drug.

37 posted on 01/30/2020 2:26:37 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: C19fan

Alcohol is just overwhelmingly bitter to me.


38 posted on 01/30/2020 2:26:56 PM PST by wally_bert (Your methods were a little incomplete, you too for that matter.)
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To: deport

That’s a serious ass gorge. Here in New Mexico he’d have been found in an abandoned chevy in an arroyo surrounded by beer cans.


39 posted on 01/30/2020 2:30:16 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: canuck_conservative

How stupid can you get?

The “adults” he was trusting were the older fraternity members.

He was 18, not 5...

and plenty old enough to have some common sense.

Many times I told my college friends “forget it” when they came up with something stupid for us to do.


40 posted on 01/30/2020 2:34:42 PM PST by Conserv ( b)
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