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America’s Favorite Poison (Whatever Happened to the Anti-Alcohol Movement?)
The Atlantic ^ | 1/14 | OLGA KHAZAN

Posted on 01/14/2020 6:57:27 PM PST by nickcarraway

Occasionally, Elizabeth Bruenig unleashes a tweet for which she knows she’s sure to get dragged: She admits that she doesn’t drink.

Bruenig, a columnist at The New York Times with a sizable social-media following, told me that it usually begins with her tweeting something mildly inflammatory and totally unrelated to alcohol—e.g., The Star Wars prequels are actually good. Someone will accuse her of being drunk. She, in turn, will clarify that she doesn’t drink, and that she’s never been drunk. Inevitably, people will criticize her. You’re really missing out, they might say. Why would you deny yourself?

As Bruenig sees it, however, there’s more to be gained than lost in abstaining. In fact, she supports stronger restrictions on alcohol sales. Alcohol’s effects on crime and violence, in her view, are cause to reconsider some cities’ and states’ permissive attitudes toward things such as open-container laws and where alcohol can be sold.

Breunig’s outlook harks back to a time when there was a robust public discussion about the role of alcohol in society. Today, warnings about the devil drink will win you few friends. Sure, it’s fine if you want to join Alcoholics Anonymous or cut back on drinking to help yourself, and people are happy to tell you not to drink and drive. But Americans tend to reject general anti-alcohol advocacy with a vociferousness typically reserved for IRS auditors and after-period double-spacers. Pushing for, say, higher alcohol taxes gets you treated like an uptight school marm. Or worse, a neo-prohibitionist.

Unlike in previous generations, hardly any formal organizations are pushing to reduce the amount that Americans drink. Some groups oppose marijuana (by many measures a much safer drug than alcohol), guns, porn, junk food, and virtually every other vice. Still, the main U.S. organizations

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; History
KEYWORDS: alcohol; alcoholbad; alcoholkills; foryourowngood; marijuanagood; marijuanamedicine; nannystate; neoprohibitionists; wod; zeropoint1bac
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To: nickcarraway

I can’t recall anyone every being criticized for not drinking.


21 posted on 01/14/2020 9:13:04 PM PST by Do_Tar (To my NSA handler: I have an alibi.)
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To: nickcarraway

Didn’t read the piece, but want to chime in and remind everyone that our belove PDT is a tee-totaler. I think because his older brother basically died of drinking.

Not drinking is always OK.

And I can drink with the very best of ‘em.


22 posted on 01/14/2020 9:13:30 PM PST by jocon307 (Dem party delenda est!)
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To: Do_Tar

Try living and working in the U.K.


23 posted on 01/14/2020 9:13:40 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Responsibility2nd

I agree. Pot has been protected. We had an accident a year ago where a driver high on pot crashed and killed people. The second it came out he was on pot, there was never another article on it again.


24 posted on 01/14/2020 9:15:04 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Last drink was Feb. 17, 1991. Don’t miss it 99% of the time but knows what will happen when the 1% creeps up.


25 posted on 01/14/2020 9:15:24 PM PST by peggybac (Government is about force. It always has been about force.)
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To: olesigh

Could you please elaborate.


26 posted on 01/14/2020 9:15:30 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

uh how look up prohibition and the american mafia. It is not credible that you don’t understand and i don’t take bait.


27 posted on 01/14/2020 9:18:19 PM PST by olesigh
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To: olesigh

UH, NO!


28 posted on 01/14/2020 9:18:38 PM PST by olesigh
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To: nickcarraway

I don’t drink anymore…but I don’t drink any LESS either !


29 posted on 01/14/2020 9:24:02 PM PST by Truthoverpower (The guv mint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: olesigh

I didn’t know you were talking about prohibition. I thought you were referring to marijuana.


30 posted on 01/14/2020 9:26:07 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: dragnet2

Me too ! ( the DAMM part )


31 posted on 01/14/2020 9:31:20 PM PST by Truthoverpower (The guv mint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: nickcarraway
No drug is without harmful consequences. I've been sober for 29 years. Sorry put alcohol is FAR more dangerous and harmful than marijuana. Alcohol withdrawal , medically unsupervised can be lethal.
32 posted on 01/15/2020 12:15:47 AM PST by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?)
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To: nickcarraway

The anti alcohol movement is alive and well in Prohibition era state regulations and alcohol taxes. It took 160 years for Minnesota to allow Sunday liquor sales and Minnesota is now the only state with 3.2 beer, a Prohibition anachronism. Alcohol taxes are easy to pass as drinking is still considered a vice to be controlled. Ironically states that have since the end of Prohibition have tried to control drinking are now quickly embracing legalizing marijuana.


33 posted on 01/15/2020 7:31:50 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: SamAdams76
I don't drink that much, and I am normally never drunk. I love pairing good wines with dinners on the weekends, or with family on holidays.

For me, I can't stand to be around drunk people either.

The few times I've crossed the drunk line, I didn't like myself at all......

34 posted on 01/15/2020 7:39:42 AM PST by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. Stay the course!)
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To: nickcarraway
(Whatever Happened to the Anti-Alcohol Movement?)

The fact that Trump doesn't drink and speaks against it = Total news blackout on alcohol temperance.

35 posted on 01/15/2020 8:36:36 AM PST by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: nickcarraway; Do_Tar
Try living and working in the U.K.

My first thought, as well. Never seen such appalling public drunkenness in my life as when traveling there. I'll never forget one evening on a nightclub/restaurant street in Ireland -- all the bouncers were coming out the doors every so often with buckets of water to rinse the sidewalks.

36 posted on 01/15/2020 8:42:12 AM PST by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: nickcarraway

I never understand the haranguers. Why do you care who does or doesn’t drink. I know people who drink. I know people who don’t. Your life, enjoy as you choose.


37 posted on 01/15/2020 8:48:38 AM PST by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: jmacusa
Sorry but alcohol is FAR more dangerous and harmful than marijuana. Alcohol withdrawal , medically unsupervised can be lethal.

So can alcohol use - there are thousands of deaths every year from alcohol poisoning ... whereas there are at most a handful of deaths from THC concentrates, and none documented from marijuana.

38 posted on 01/15/2020 10:46:15 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: nickcarraway

We’re coming, we’re coming, our brave little band,
On the right side of temperance we do take our stand,
We don’t use tobacco because we do think
that people who use it are likely to drink!

Away, away with rum, by gum, rum, by gum, rum, by gum,
Away, away with rum, by gum,
the song of the temperance union!


39 posted on 01/15/2020 1:04:42 PM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: ctdonath2
Some people can’t separate “drinking” from “drunk”.

One may enjoy a refreshing beer on a hot day, or a glass or two of wine with a meal, not seeking drunkenness. But the purpose of "recreational" Marijuana is to become "high".

40 posted on 01/15/2020 1:12:18 PM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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