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1 posted on 01/14/2020 5:07:57 PM PST by nickcarraway
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I just passed 6 months since my prostatectomy, but I disagree with this study. There are a LOT of factors that put your body in a susceptible condition to allow cancer to form. Just focusing on diet alone is stupid, when other factors can eclipse any benefit derived from a good diet.


2 posted on 01/14/2020 5:12:11 PM PST by fwdude (Poverty is nearly always a mindset, which canÂ’t be cured by cash.)
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That doesn’t sound very scientific to me. One group of men is counseled over the phone to eat more fruits and vegetables, and another group is counseled to eat fewer and less fruits and vegetables. Of the ones that didn’t die of a heart attack from not eating enough fruits and vegetables, there was no difference in the rate of prostate cancer between the 2 groups.


3 posted on 01/14/2020 5:13:18 PM PST by webheart
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Dairy and animal (not fish) fat, along with testosterone encourage early to mid prostate cancer.

Japanese men do not get much prostate cancer in Japan, but when they move to Hawaii, their rates match ours when exposed to dairy and red meat.


7 posted on 01/14/2020 5:21:00 PM PST by cicero2k
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Chances of getting Prostate cancer increases with more consumption of saturated fat, such as is present in such foods as prime rib.

Eating fruits and vegetables helps to speed up movement through bowel but it has little effect on exiting cancer tumors in prostate.

The only good news is, MOST prostate cancers grow slowly and the patient is more likely die from other causes or old age. I remember reading somewhere chances of you having prostate cancer is same percentage as your age. For those living in Rio Linda, it means if you are age 70, there is 70% chance you have cancer cells in prostate.


8 posted on 01/14/2020 5:25:20 PM PST by entropy12 (You are either for free enterprise or want gov't to protect your wage levels. Can't be both.)
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We don’t know, but if they had an otherwise rotten diet, I’m not surprised a few more vegetables didn’t help.


10 posted on 01/14/2020 5:29:11 PM PST by GnuThere
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To: nickcarraway

Jeez, just enjoy your life


12 posted on 01/14/2020 5:38:14 PM PST by montag813
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these men should have been offered therapeutic
treatment FIRST, and then the role of nutrition
could have been examined (assuming it was a real study)
based upon the size and treatment of the lesions.


13 posted on 01/14/2020 5:41:51 PM PST by Diogenesis ( WWG1WGA)
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“Eating Fruit, Vegetables Won’t Slow Prostate Cancer, Study Finds”

As Don Imus recently found out...the hard way.


14 posted on 01/14/2020 5:42:10 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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"Diet is not a 'magic bullet' for treating prostate cancer," Parsons said. "But it's also worth noting that while a healthy diet rich in fruits and vegetables may not cure cancer, it will likely keep the body stronger and healthier, which may help patients better tolerate cancer treatments."

We needed this unscientific exercise to tell us that?

I am more and more convinced as I age that common sense far ellipses the pop "science" of our current "research".

15 posted on 01/14/2020 5:42:54 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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The thing that slows or arrests the progression of prostate cancer is orhiectomy (removal of the testicles). Prostate cancer feeds on testosterone and the testicles are the main producer. Not many guys want to consider that but IT WORKS!


16 posted on 01/14/2020 5:43:32 PM PST by 43north (Its hard to stop a man when he knows he's right and he keeps coming.)
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Can i still eat fruit and veggies...> /s


17 posted on 01/14/2020 5:45:06 PM PST by Leep (Everyday is Trump Day!)
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To: nickcarraway

I would probably say drinking a lot of water and not overeating is probably advantageous. A little red wine once in awhile shouldn’t hurt.


19 posted on 01/14/2020 6:02:35 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Vote for President Trump in 2020 or end up equally miserable, no rights, and eating zoo animals)
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I think genes are a HUGH part of it.

It should be Impossible that I don’t have diabetes.

We’re talking scoffing down horrific amounts of VERY sugary foods at night before bed for Decades.

Not the healthy sugary foods like fruit either.

Like a box of 36 oreos. YES it’s disgusting and yes at 51 I don’t do that anymore...maybe once a month.

But I did it a Lot in my 30s and 40s and i don’t know how my pancreas didn’t lose its mind. I think it’s the pancreas that’s in charge of that :)


20 posted on 01/14/2020 6:02:37 PM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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Cancer loves sugar, loves a generally inflamed environment, and hates high levels of oxygen and vitamin C (a few grams per day).

Pulse a Keto diet, get lean, do cardio and pound some vitamin C. It won’t hurt, and probably will help.


21 posted on 01/14/2020 6:35:53 PM PST by BeauBo
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Well ain’t it a bitch.


22 posted on 01/14/2020 6:38:20 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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Self-reported two more servings a day?

Not exactly prime research.

My guess as to the larger correlation, however, would be those not eating sugars and simple carbs. Some nominal increase in veggie consumption not likely to be significant.


32 posted on 01/15/2020 4:47:33 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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Eating fruits and vegetables can prevent prostate cancer and all types of cancer, so long as meat, poultry, pork, fish, dairy, eggs, and all animal protein is also eliminated from the diet. Only a whole food, plant-based diet can prevent and in many cases help reverse cancer.

https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/prostate-cancer/


33 posted on 01/15/2020 4:49:18 AM PST by southern rock
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Frequent ejaculation also helps prevent prostate cancer. (Seriously, not joking.)


34 posted on 01/15/2020 4:54:05 AM PST by southern rock
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