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Why the Ruins of Persepolis (Iran) is one of the Wonders of the Ancient World
Culture Trip ^ | May 2017 | Pontia Fallahi

Posted on 01/08/2020 1:54:01 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege

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To: kaehurowing

I don’t think the Greeks description of the Persians was wrong but that movie was awful.

The Greeks did beat the crap out of them in war tho. From Marathon, Salamis Plataea, to Granicus, Arbela, and the 10,000 Greek mercenaries under Xenophon who was voted co-commander after the Persians treacherously murdered the Greek commanders under a flag of truce.

The book of Daniel also tells of the Greeks prophesied conquest of Persia.


41 posted on 01/08/2020 5:08:46 PM PST by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: DesertRhino

According to Islam nothing important happened before Mo’s revelations. All that’s “cultural to them came after. Almost all (I’ll grant the Taj an exception yet its loving creator was locked up by his more devoutly islamic son for building it) that we deem worth protecting for cultural reasons came before. So leaving be whatever pre-islamic cultural sites they haven’t already destroyed and taking out whatever post-islamic “cultural” sites squares Trump’s and our circle.


42 posted on 01/08/2020 5:12:16 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (waiting for the tweets to hatch)
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To: C19fan

Persepolis is not a cultural icon of theocratic Islamic Iran.

Frankly, I’m astounded cultural sites that predate the “revolution” survive at all.


43 posted on 01/08/2020 5:13:54 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Vote Democrat? Loser)
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To: DesertRhino
"It would be wonderful to be able visit sites like this someday.

I agree with you. Those columns are unusual and very beautiful.
44 posted on 01/08/2020 5:15:56 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: semimojo

I don’t agree with hitting cultural sites with that said I did not see anyone caring about our cultural sites in 2001...I understand we are a young nation but still.


45 posted on 01/08/2020 6:24:00 PM PST by terart
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

God raises up kings and kingdoms. And He is the one who numbers their days.
It might look like an earthquake, or an enemy caused the downfall, etc. But God is in ultimate control.
It would be good if all Trumpers and never-Trumpers and Trump-agnostics knew (remembered) this.


46 posted on 01/08/2020 6:50:43 PM PST by Honest Nigerian
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To: terart

The people who hit our ‘cultural site’ don’t give a damn about ‘culture’.

Neither did - nor do - their sponsors.


47 posted on 01/08/2020 6:57:38 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: terart
...I did not see anyone caring about our cultural sites in 2001.

Seriously?

Most of the countries in the world expressed expressed outrage and solidarity with the US.

48 posted on 01/08/2020 7:09:04 PM PST by semimojo
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To: semimojo

I meant the ones who attacked us and the places they chose to hit...I know people around the world cared about us getting attacked.


49 posted on 01/08/2020 9:03:56 PM PST by terart
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To: Thank You Rush

I can relate. I have great respect for the American people and utter disdain for our criminal government.


50 posted on 01/08/2020 9:59:52 PM PST by Nellie Wilkerson
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
Thanks a fool in paradise.

51 posted on 01/08/2020 10:55:49 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: C19fan

DJT used the phrase “cultural sites” because the Iranians have declared some of their nuclear reactor and nuclear research sites “cultural sites” - it was a message to the mullahs that even those would disappear in the 30 minutes it would take to utterly destroy all tactical and strategic sites in Iran, including its navy.


52 posted on 01/09/2020 1:35:26 AM PST by PIF (e)
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To: C19fan

He said they would be valid targets - never said he was targeting them.
It also pointed out how many terror groups have destroyed the cultural sites of so many others.
He trolls so good he picks up a lot of fringe along the way.


53 posted on 01/09/2020 3:44:22 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: cyclotic

the mooselimbs hide their missiles next to hospitals and day care centers.


54 posted on 01/09/2020 3:47:36 AM PST by Joe Boucher ( Molon Labe' baby, Molon Labe)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege; SunkenCiv
***some sites dating back over 7,000 years, far before the civilization of the Persian Empire***

Fascinating! Thanks for the posting; I wish I had the time to dig deeper. I am fascinated with 'prehistoric' societies. The old myth that Sumer began civilized societies - a complex urban structure that just mysteriously exploded out of the Mesopotamian desert - is dissolving, opening completely new vistas.

55 posted on 01/09/2020 5:29:33 AM PST by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: xp38
For some reason I doubt the ancients who built Persepolis respected the cultural sites of others.

It is not really relevant whether the ancient Persians respected other cultures (they did not, in the modern sense). We live in a post-Enlightenment world, and we abide by our prevailing laws, not those of ancient peoples.

56 posted on 01/09/2020 6:30:23 AM PST by nwrep
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To: Bob Ireland

Sumeria gets the nod because it produced the earliest writing system that can be read (more later if desired). Samuel Noah Kramer noted that the names for the major rivers and even the cities in Sumer didn’t have Sumerian names, but thanks to the characteristics of cuneiform (which the Sumerians did invent) and a cultural quirk (they believed that cities were never founded by humans, but by the gods), they preserved tiny bits in transliterations of otherwise vanished languages.

By their own account, the Sumerians arrived by sea. They called themselves “the black headed people” (I guess, complexion problems ;^) and their accounting systems and writing systems endured a long time (it was in use in multiple cultures, languages, eras, for at least as long as we’ve been using the alphabetic system). Sumerian literature survived in translation and adaptation among the Akkadians, a Semitic people who lived alongside and gradually became much like the Sumerians. The Sumerian language continued to be written and probably spoken among the learned class for a long while after the Sumerians themselves ceased to be a discernable people.

The Elamites were the big dog in the area of Iran long before the Persians. They too had a written language, but it’s still obscure (I don’t think a large preserved archive has been discovered). The Harappan script is also pretty old, but hasn’t been cracked to the satisfaction of anyone but the individual translators — there’s been no bilingual texts discovered, which may be a permanent problem and stumbling block.


57 posted on 01/09/2020 10:22:43 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: WVNan

First of all, the Geneva Convention wasn’t in force back then. Second, I didn’t realize that “Southern” culture had been wiped off the map. Last time I was in Dothan, AL, the southern gentility was quite evident. Lastly, Sherman and Sheridan are still reviled in some localities.


58 posted on 01/09/2020 10:56:29 AM PST by bagman
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To: DesertRhino

That’s a rather strange definition of culture. What might it not cover?


59 posted on 01/09/2020 10:57:35 AM PST by bagman
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To: Verginius Rufus

What does “barbarian” mean to Herodotus?


60 posted on 01/09/2020 10:58:32 AM PST by bagman
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