Posted on 12/14/2019 4:03:52 PM PST by ebshumidors
Navy finally wins! Trump looked good in his hat. Anybody else watch?
OH OK
AIR FORCE and COAST GUARD graduates...
Are they trained for different careers while in the college?
Being aboard a ship, flying a jet, being in the coast guard, etc?
I know there’s probably a million different careers “being on a ship” and being in the coast guard but I’m just asking in general.
Cause I don’t know a darn thing except what you just told me, and that’s a lot more than i knew 5 minutes ago so thanks :)
Is there a school for air force pilots and marines etc..
HOW DOES IT ALL WORK?!!? :)
It should be part of a high school course.
I don’t know if they still require them to play one varsity sport. My son-in-law (USNA ‘89) played field hockey.
I was a Mustang so for my first 14 years my interest was how many future junior officers got hurt.
Also known as Hudson High and Severn River Yacht club.
Wow you guys just answered a MILLION question I had.
Thanks that was great.
Navy Vet, I THINK many of the questions I asked you in that long winded last post were answered in OKSooner’s last response and I don’t want you to have to type it over again.
But any new info is gladly accepted.
Like I said before, this is something that should be taught in high school as all of these schools play an important part in preparing the future leaders of our military, I assume.
But then, that would be too patriotic for the history books of today...
They (at least USNA) have an academic major. Used to be Engineering or Science, but that has changed. They also have to apply for and be chosen for a career path; Marine option, Surface Warfare, Submarine Service or Naval Aviation. Part or that professional training includes summer cruises, etc.
Several of the LBs and secondary were called out as Marine options.
“Do either of those ring a bell?”
Yes, of course. But Annapolis is Annapolis, and the fleet is the fleet. What happens in the fleet doesn’t bring Annapolis immediately to mind. My opinion, of course.
Well my father-in-law is a retired Navy man who served in WWII & the Korean conflict. He always roots for Navy in the rivalry. I suspect that some of those who made the comment were more aligned with Army, but deferred their loyalty to Navy due to the recent shootings. That too, is just my opinion. 8>)
“The Navy QB, can he pass well?”
He is a decent passer, and although Navy used more passing plays to good advantage this season, they still are primarily a triple-option team.
The shotgun formation was new this year, an addition I assume to accomodate the decision to add more passing to the offense.
“31-7 Navy...let me guess, Navy’s Defense is made up mostly of Middies
that are going Marine option...lol”
About a dozen graduating senior football players are going Marines - 1 Marine Corps Air, the Rest Marine Corps Ground. QB Malcolm Perry is going Marine Corps Ground.
15% - 20% of Naval Academy graduates are commissioned in the Marines at graduation, the exact number depending on the needs of the Corps. There are always more requesting Marines than who receive that commission.
I have been a Blue & Gold Officer - and have helped ‘mentor’ kids looking to go to any service academy. Here are a few factoids....
At USNA - 75% of graduates must be in STEM fields. 25% are ‘liberal arts’...(English, Political Science, Economics, Chinese, Arabic and very few other choices.) BUT -for those ‘non-STEM majors’ - they still must complete 2 years of Calculus and Differential Equations, 1 year of Chemistry, 1 year of calculus based physics, 1 year of electrical engineering and 1 year of naval architecture. Since these non-STEM majors still require this technical stuff - they get a Bachelor of Science Degree...(in English, Poli Sci. etc.) The other academies have similar policies.
I wonder if college football players had to complete the same level of course work as academies .how many playing would be ruled ineligible? That alone would make the academies far more competitive with other colleges - since at other colleges - there are plenty of soft liberal arts majors that don’t require any science, engineering, or even math approaching calculus.
Several years ago - Keenan Reynolds was permitted to go to the reserves and fulfil his obligation through reserves -while trying out for the NFL. He was drafted, put on waivers, signed with teams, demoted to practice squads, etc....hasn’t played yet. He was drafted for the new XFL that will be starting in 2020. The service academies want the primary focus on service after graduation and commissioning, but will make some certain exceptions....and doing so can help recruit people to the service academy - and to enlist in the service.
Typically - the maximum weight for a future service member is around 245 lbs...and football players are allowed to get up to 280+ during the season. Still not very competitive with college players that are over 300 lbs!
USNA, USAFA and USMA have about 4500 students (including 20% to 30% women) -but all are typically very healthy - so they do have the ability to compete with a college or university that has 10K to 15K students. All students must be involved in either Varsity athletics, Club Sport Athletics, intramural athletics, or approved alternates. (IOW - Not all do varsity...) My son - class of 2008 - did “Drum & Bugle Corps” - which was the marching band and played at all games -home and away - and that counted for the ‘sports requirement.’
USCoast Guard Academy is about 1200 students (1/4th the size...) - so they don’t compete at Division I level - for obvious reasons. The US Merchant Marine Academy - also about 1/4th the size - has some sports teams. IIRC -both of these smaller academies are ‘Division III’.
One of my son’s best friends at the Academy was a prior-enlisted Marine who came directly from an Iraq deployment to spend a few days at home and then reported to Induction Day at USNA.
After having experienced Parris Island and having been in in the Fleet, he found much of the Academy experience to be chickensh!t, especially taking orders from upper class Mids who were younger than he! But he toughed it out, made great friends, and selected Marine Air, as did my son.
My wife and I remain friends with his parents, and he (with wife and kids) often visits our tailgaters at Navy football games.
Our lives have been immeasurably enriched by getting to know the Mids, as well as West Point and Air Force Cadets over the years. They represent one of our greatest national treasures.
The long snapper for the New England Patriots, Joe Cardona, graduated from the Naval Academy in 2015. He serves his commitment in the Reserves.
Cool! Thanks for the input.
Cool, thank you.
I’m not sure about my son’s friend.
My son flew a Phrog (CH-46E) x 3 years, and when it was being phased out then transitioned to the Yankee (UH-1Y) (avoiding a shore assignment). After he was qualified, he went right back to the Fleet for 3 years, and is now completing a billet as an instructor pilot at MCAS Pendleton.
We’re awaiting news of his next assignment.
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