Skip to comments.With Trump’s planned rollback, it could soon cost more energy to wash Thanksgiving dishes
Posted on 11/28/2019 3:41:23 PM PST by simpson96
Energy Department wants to make dishwashers great again with faster-cleaning appliances
Peoples time is a nonrenewable resource.
Thats the argument pushed by the Trump administration as it moves to roll back energy-efficiency requirements that slowed down dishwashers and other household appliances, according to one Energy Department official quoted this fall when the proposal was open to response.
The department has now said it will move ahead with the rule-making change that came about with prodding by the Competitive Enterprise Institute, known for its activism refuting climate-change statistics. The group supports a new class of fast dishwashers that can complete a cycle in an hour or less.
Other groups had chimed in, too.
Dishwashers used to clean a full load of filthy dishes in under an hour. But now they take an average of two and a half hours and STILL leave dishes dirty! reads one online petition to push the energy department to action. It was promoted by FreedomWorks, a libertarian arm of a group co-founded by the Koch brothers. The petition, titled Make Dishwashers Great Again, is just one part of a broad campaign coordinated by conservative organizations, some with ties, like the Kochs, to fossil-fuel companies.
The rule would exempt new dishwashers from the prior energy-efficiency standards. Its not a small market: This year, there were nearly 9 million dishwashers sold in the U.S.
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I set them out in the yard and pressure washed them. 3000 PSI does a good job.
The dishes that survived were real clean.
Thank you. He was.
He's been gone a long time but I miss him still.
I married a man much like him and I still miss him too.
I was aware of that, and I collect it in the summer for the garden, which simply means it ends up in the ground there versus the bare ground on the back. But legality it depends where you live:
The city of Tucson, Ariz., which receives a meager 12 inches of rainfall in an average year (much of it coming in big downpours), decreed not only that collecting the rain is legal, but that all new commercial development starting in June 2010 must include a rainwater collection system.
The city of Tucson, Ariz., which receives a meager 12 inches of rainfall in an average year (much of it coming in big downpours), decreed not only that collecting the rain is legal, but that all new commercial development starting in June 2010 must include a rainwater collection system. - https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a11758/4314447/
But I also wonder how restrictions that deals with the issue of air rights above your house?
Idiots. You can still buy more efficient ones if you want.
How old? The one we replaced did better on less time.
“now they take an average of two and a half hours and STILL leave dishes dirty”
I recently replaced mine. The owner’s manual actually says the slower run time is like driving your car at slower speeds to conserve gas, as if you only have so much electricity available to clean the dishes before you run out! Baffling logic there. Must be the new PC “science”.
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California is attacking the problem at both ends: no water, and no electricity. Some people might try to switch to disposable paper plates, but that would require logging and industrial production. Finger foods are the only solution.
They probably can be but the rub is that they would be a lot louder...we have a new dishwasher that is so quiet that you have to concentrate to hear it even while standing in the kitchen within a few feet (only noise if makes is when it drains - can hear it in the sink drain)....it supplements the cleaning cycle with steam and we’ve had one bowl that had some crystallized candy stuck to it come out less than pristine - big bowls top and bottom blocking some of the flow probably helped.
Embrace the healing power of “and”...
I also use the “speed cycle” which cleans them better and faster. Probably due to the water heater maintaining hot water temp throughout the entire cycle.
I think all the people complaining about their dishwasher have cheap azz ones. We had one like that in a new house we had bought, builder grade, and yeah it sucked. I actually spent the money on a Maytag with a grinder in it and love it. Like you, short cycle, Cascade pods, and no heat. I don’t even open the door and they still dry. Everything comes out clean and sparkly.
Also lack of TSP in todays green detergents.
I open the door to add a little humidity to our dry winter air.
What do you do when the dishwasher doesn’t work? Kick her in the ass.
I am wondering if one of the trade offs from cleaning with greater speed is sound.
My fairly new dishwasher cleans fine and is so quiet I barely hear it during most of it’s cycles. It was not the cheapest one available nor the most expensive.
BJs has the Pods on sale at a super good price.
They are quiet, but so was the one we bought in 2007 when we built a house in Illinois, but before the full force of the regs kicked in. You don’t need a government regulation to get people to buy quiet dishwashers. Some might even have a quiet vs. fast setting. We might see that we the new generation of fast dishwashers. Now I am waiting for making washing machines and toilets great again.
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