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Police can keep Ring camera video forever and share with whomever they’d like, Amazon tells senator
The Washington Post ^ | 19 Nov 2019 | Drew Harwell

Posted on 11/20/2019 7:01:26 PM PST by Theoria

Police officers who download videos captured by homeowners’ Ring doorbell cameras can keep them forever and share them with whomever they’d like without providing evidence of a crime, the Amazon-owned firm told a lawmaker this month.

More than 600 police forces across the country have entered into partnerships with the camera giant, allowing them to quickly request and download video recorded by Ring’s motion-detecting, Internet-connected cameras inside and around Americans’ homes.

The company says that the videos can be a critical tool in helping law enforcement investigate crimes such as trespassing, burglary and package theft, and that homeowners are free to decline the requests. But some lawmakers and privacy advocates say the systems could empower more widespread police surveillance, fuel racial profiling and spark new neighborhood fears.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Society
KEYWORDS: 1984; amazon; beseeingyou; bezos; bigbother; bigbrother; camera; crime; orwelliannightmare; police; privacyrights; ring; stalinisttactics; surveillance; tinfoil
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Police in those communities can use Ring software to request up to 12 hours of video from anyone within half a square mile of a suspected crime scene, covering a 45-day time span, Huseman wrote. Police are required to include a case number for the crime they are investigating, but not any other details or evidence related to the crime or their request.


1 posted on 11/20/2019 7:01:26 PM PST by Theoria
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To: Theoria

If you own one of those you are a cell in the total surveillance state.


2 posted on 11/20/2019 7:05:39 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats only believe in democracy when they win the election.)
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To: Theoria

I did not grow up in a surveillance Stasi-type society, nor do I wish to live in one.


3 posted on 11/20/2019 7:08:45 PM PST by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: Theoria

If you are on my porch, they can keep the video forever, as will I.

I’ve been ripped off once too often by porch pirates.

Anyone setting foot on my property better have a reason, such as delivering mail, because I think thieves should be flogged on the spot (for first offense, crucified thereafter), and stepping over my property line changes the status from ‘innocent until proved guilty’ to full-on Napoleonic code if anything of mine has disappeared.


4 posted on 11/20/2019 7:10:09 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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To: Theoria

Wow, this is terrible.

Who was the NSA who said it..?

“Turn-key totalitarian state”.

Potential for abuse:

99.9%


5 posted on 11/20/2019 7:10:13 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Theoria

Until 18 months ago TONS of PD’s thought they were perfectly entitled to go into driveways and frontyards to retrieve GPS trackers off of cars, or plant them, there, too.

They probably STILL do.


6 posted on 11/20/2019 7:11:31 PM PST by gaijin
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
They are also providing the surveillance system to spy on a whole neighborhood, not just who comes and goes to your house.
7 posted on 11/20/2019 7:11:45 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Recall that unqualified Hillary Clinton sat on the board of Wal-Mart when Bill Clinton was governor)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

8 posted on 11/20/2019 7:13:40 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Recall that unqualified Hillary Clinton sat on the board of Wal-Mart when Bill Clinton was governor)
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To: gaijin
I once thought that Orwell's 1984 was going to prove 100% wrong. Instead of the state having all of the computers and surveillance cameras to watch the people, it turned out that the people were going to have them to watch the state.

Looks like the state is going to turn the tables on that after all.

9 posted on 11/20/2019 7:14:06 PM PST by fhayek
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To: fhayek

Everyone is okay with private firms keeping tabs on everything (since it isn’t government) and then the government getting free access by policy or court order.


10 posted on 11/20/2019 7:16:05 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Recall that unqualified Hillary Clinton sat on the board of Wal-Mart when Bill Clinton was governor)
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To: Theoria
Glad Amazon lost JEDI. Power corrupts, absolutely powere corrupts absolutely. I Tim. 6:11: 10 For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. By craving it, some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many sorrows.
11 posted on 11/20/2019 7:16:07 PM PST by Fungi
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To: Theoria

Can it be set up to record to local drive or does it go back to the mother ship? If it can’t be set up to record locally, no thanks!


12 posted on 11/20/2019 7:16:22 PM PST by cazmandeuce
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To: Theoria

Guess what, if you’re on Facebook you’re already in the facial recognition system.


13 posted on 11/20/2019 7:18:21 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: Theoria

homeowners are free to decline the requests.


14 posted on 11/20/2019 7:19:04 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: cazmandeuce

In most applications it is necessary to have the information in the cloud so you can be immediately notified via text/email. It isn’t much useful to record locally.


15 posted on 11/20/2019 7:19:51 PM PST by cornfedcowboy
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To: cornfedcowboy

No thanks! Guess the Big Mastiff will have to sleep less. Haha


16 posted on 11/20/2019 7:23:43 PM PST by cazmandeuce
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If you own one of those you are a cell in the total surveillance state.

If you own a mobile phone the same applies.

17 posted on 11/20/2019 7:24:57 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: Theoria
So if Brookland had one of these,
We would know that Epstein didn't kill himself.

18 posted on 11/20/2019 7:26:17 PM PST by MAAG (For the LORD will vindicate his people and have compassion on his servants.)
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To: fhayek

Who would have thought that the citizenry would themselves on behalf of the cops PAY FOR, install and then maintain ad infinitum the very cameras surveilling THEM...?


19 posted on 11/20/2019 7:27:01 PM PST by gaijin
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To: RedStateRocker

I agree with you.

Growing up in my birth country, I recall a thief was caught doing petty burglary in a nearby house to ours. The neighborhood people beat the crap out of the thief with sticks. Guess what, there were no more burglaries in my neighborhood.

I do not propose going to that extreme, but surveillance camera’s are great, and only criminals fear them.


20 posted on 11/20/2019 7:30:31 PM PST by entropy12 (You are either for free enterprise or for government price fixing. Can't be for both as convenient.)
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