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Police can keep Ring camera video forever and share with whomever they’d like, Amazon tells senator
The Washington Post ^ | 19 Nov 2019 | Drew Harwell

Posted on 11/20/2019 7:01:26 PM PST by Theoria

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To: Theoria
Police file the request, Ring sends out the e-mail to account holders who are subscribers to the online storage system, users can decline to permit their video to be shared.

What the police can get: Motion activated video, a once every 5 minutes snapshot.

What police can't get: answered rings, live video recordings initiated by the homeowner, any video or snapshots by non-subscribers.

As this is disclosed in the user agreement, I'm good with this system. Truthfully, it'll be a rare moment when this option is exercised as honestly, most departments don't have the technical expertise (or investigative time) to go through hundreds of hours of video and images.

21 posted on 11/20/2019 7:35:33 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: entropy12
If you want neighborhood justice then hold court behind someone’s garage.
22 posted on 11/20/2019 7:42:39 PM PST by coaster123 (Distrust everyone under fifty.)
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To: gaijin

“Until 18 months ago TONS of PD’s thought they were perfectly entitled to go into driveways and frontyards to retrieve GPS trackers off of cars, or plant them, there, too.

They probably STILL do.”

They think if you found an unlabeled something on/in your car and you remove it (which any sane person would do) that is Theft, even worse if it stops working for any reason it is still theft which can be used to get a search warrant for anyplace you might have gone.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/11/man-charged-with-theft-for-removing-police-gps-tracker-from-his-car/


23 posted on 11/20/2019 7:45:37 PM PST by algore
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To: Theoria

Buy Arlo Stock!

Hey at least for now the requests are voluntary.


24 posted on 11/20/2019 7:47:18 PM PST by crusher2013
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To: All

Uber plans to start audio-recording rides in the U.S. for safety


25 posted on 11/20/2019 7:55:28 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Gunslingr3
If you own a mobile phone the same applies.

Even more so. A lot more so.

26 posted on 11/20/2019 7:58:18 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: cazmandeuce
Can it be set up to record to local drive or does it go back to the mother ship?

Don't know about Ring, but I use Arlo cameras, and they are to record to an external hard drive that is attached to the base unit. So there are some systems that don't require cloud based service.

27 posted on 11/20/2019 7:58:24 PM PST by voicereason (The RNC is like the "one-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: Theoria

We have Skybell - not Ring. Better camera and no cozy relationship of turning over video at a moment’s notice. (AFAIK)


28 posted on 11/20/2019 8:02:39 PM PST by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

My neighbors across the street have one. I’m wondering if I should put cardboard cutouts circling on a model train loop with backlighting to keep it entertained in my front window.. I’m thinking Julie Newmar as Catwoman and Diana Rigg as Emma Peal. Or Bill Bixby and Lou Ferrigno’s Hulk, or Just hang a sheet and use the projector to play godzilla movies.


29 posted on 11/20/2019 8:10:12 PM PST by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: algore

I ever find a tracker on my car it is either going to “accidentally” fall off on the freeway at 75 mph, getting crushed by following traffic.... Or I’m going to spend some quality time with Google maps and then a couple of hours following a carefully chosen course. When who-ever looks at my path on the map it is going to spell out something the moderators here on FR would rather I not say...


30 posted on 11/20/2019 8:23:55 PM PST by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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To: Theoria

I’ve been considering buying one. I’ll look elsewhere now.


31 posted on 11/20/2019 8:32:11 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

mail it to your friends and have them remail it repeatedly..


32 posted on 11/20/2019 8:33:28 PM PST by rolling_stone (no justice no peace and leakers)
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To: kaehurowing

We lost ALL of our freedom a long time ago. Even going off grid is not full proof. 1984 is the new normal.


33 posted on 11/20/2019 9:00:58 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: RedStateRocker

Why not rent a post office box?

My local post office allows me to receive packages using their street address, followed by Unit....(my post office box number is added after the word “Unit”).

I filled out a short form, and they also accept packages... and hold them for me...from UPS and Fed Ex.


34 posted on 11/20/2019 9:10:01 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (I'm triggered by liberals and other assorted moonbats.)
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To: entropy12

You mean like in Hong Kong, dipstick?


35 posted on 11/20/2019 10:56:42 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: RedStateRocker

How far out do they focus? Could your doorbell be co-opted to do surveillance work w/o your knowledge/permission?


36 posted on 11/21/2019 3:51:20 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Theoria

Police in those communities can use Ring software to request up to 12 hours of video from anyone within half a square mile of a suspected crime scene, covering a 45-day time span, Huseman wrote. Police are required to include a case number for the crime they are investigating, but not any other details or evidence related to the crime or their request.


This is all on the up and up. I’m pretty sure I read about this in our founding document. What’s that thing called again? Oh yeah The Constitution of The United States. /s


37 posted on 11/21/2019 4:04:11 AM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: Theoria

A guy a work was showing me his Ring camera setup the other day. I had no idea that Amazon was involved. He did mention “ the cloud”.


38 posted on 11/21/2019 4:05:09 AM PST by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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To: kaehurowing

Guess what, if you’re on Facebook you’re already in the facial recognition system.


Guess what, if you have a drivers license or photo ID you’re already in the facial recognition system. {fixed}


39 posted on 11/21/2019 4:07:07 AM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: kingu

...until they change their terms of service, after you installed it

Kinda like utoob, or look me, or...


40 posted on 11/21/2019 4:14:42 AM PST by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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