Police can keep Ring camera video forever and share with whomever they’d like, Amazon tells senator

The Washington Post ^ | 19 Nov 2019 | Drew Harwell

[Openurmind]

For the same price you can buy your own video surveillance system with the same capabilities but it is all yours with no 3rd party connections.

This same type of situation with ring makes me wonder about the Microsoft Cloud privacy and why I would never use it.

[HereInTheHeartland]

“and only criminals fear them.”

The road to a police state is paved with statements like that.

[Openurmind]

“Don’t know about Ring, but I use Arlo cameras, and they are to record to an external hard drive that is attached to the base unit. So there are some systems that don’t require cloud based service.”

Yep. with smartphone/PC software and all for the same price or less and YOU own it not the manufacturer.

[PapaBear3625]

Growing up in my birth country, I recall a thief was caught doing petty burglary in a nearby house to ours. The neighborhood people beat the crap out of the thief with sticks. Guess what, there were no more burglaries in my neighborhood.

Growing up in my old neighborhood in the US, if you were wandering around, looked like you were casing the place for burglary, and couldn't give a convincing legitimate reason for being there, the local teens would beat you up and tell you not to come around any more.

Later, that tradition declined. So did the neighborhood.

[Openurmind]

“Guess what, if you’re on Facebook you’re already in the facial recognition system.”

Yep, camera and audio without your knowledge. Youtube does this too.

[PapaBear3625]

Don't know about Ring, but I use Arlo cameras, and they are to record to an external hard drive that is attached to the base unit. So there are some systems that don't require cloud based service.

And if you're burglarized, and they take the base unit, it defeats the purpose of the security system.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Not if you keep it in a Faraday bag.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=faraday+bag+for+phone&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_odkw=faraday+bag+for+phone&_osacat=0

[Faith65]

bfl

[discostu]

That’s just acknowledging reality. Once something gets downloaded the originator has lost all control.

[RedStateRocker]

I don’t think that’s extreme enough. We need to deal with thieves by flogging or the stocks.

Jurisprudence has been straight downhill since Augustus Caesar.

[RedStateRocker]

If I find one I’m going to put it in a bottle and plant it where no one is likely to accidentally find it- with a nice little booby-trap for when they go to retrieve it.

[Pollard]

I’d love to have some automation and other handy gizmos but it would have to be a system built from scratch using open source software and small components assembled by me.

No google, amazon or any other brand name pre-assembled crap

[Gunslingr3]

How many decimal places you reckon I’ll need to spell out the percentage of mobile phone toting society that keep their phone in a Faraday cage?

[voicereason]

And if you're burglarized, and they take the base unit, it defeats the purpose of the security system.

The base unit is actually quite secure and out of sight, along with the attached external hard drive. The cameras all wirelessly connect to the base unit.