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Excerpts of a article which describes a problem that I think reflects the moral degeneration of American society overall, and is increasingly seen in both private industry and the government;

Both of which are committed to liberal political correctness (including LBTQ favoritism*), motivated by fear of that enemy within while weakening the nation against foes from without, both of whom punish those who stand for traditional Biblical values (thus engaging in a costly war against God )

*A moral wrong is not a civil right; like the sin itself, that's confusion;

calling evil good and exchanging light for darkness, is sure delusion!

History tells us where this will lead, from societies now in dust,

When a nation casts off the laws of God, and follows it's own lusts.

(From the poem Freedom not Sodom!

1 posted on 11/13/2019 6:06:24 AM PST by daniel1212
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Like any huge corporation with a near-monopoly they’ve gotten fat, lazy and sloppy.

Same with their unionized workforce.

Those two things largely killed off the steel industry here in Pittsburgh.


2 posted on 11/13/2019 6:08:32 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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From sloppy work to blown deadlines to deadly failures, the company has lost its way. It needs tough love — in the form of Congressional investigations....

...

Because Congress is known for its honesty and integrity.


3 posted on 11/13/2019 6:14:43 AM PST by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth.)
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The tough love should come in the form of competition, not congressional hearings.

That, and financial punishment for not meeting contract requirements, including safety standards.


4 posted on 11/13/2019 6:15:00 AM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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Who is John Galt?

The US had a good run. And the sun used to never set on the British empire.

All good things come to an end.


6 posted on 11/13/2019 6:16:07 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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Their quality seems to have gone down since moving their HQ from Seattle to Chicago...


7 posted on 11/13/2019 6:17:50 AM PST by kosciusko51
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Meanwhile, Lockheed Martin is eating Boeing’s lunch.


9 posted on 11/13/2019 6:24:26 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area".)
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in the form of Congressional investigations

Whether the company has lost its way or not, this suggestion is not going to help.

Congress is full of fakes, phonies, thieves and grifters. The collective intelligence is less than that of a box of rocks, there is less integrity than a 2-year-old alone in a candy store, and if anyone thinks they have the capacity to investigate anything, just watch the news and this website this week.

12 posted on 11/13/2019 6:26:43 AM PST by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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Years ago doing an onsite boeing project the company I worked for was awarded, it was amusing to see boeing engineers playing solitaire at their ‘work’ stations.


14 posted on 11/13/2019 6:27:28 AM PST by chief lee runamok (expect nothing)
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IMHO the downfall of Boeing began when they moved their executive headquarters from Seattle to Chicago.

The fiasco that became the 787 Dreamliner was the first of a long line of Boeing missteps that culminated (thus far, they're not done yet) in the 737MAX groundings over a few missing lines of code.

On the military side, Boeing is years late delivering the KC-46 tanker that they claimed to be experts in building.

16 posted on 11/13/2019 6:29:03 AM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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When you hire foreigners to do the work, you get what you pay for. When you give Americans job security and treat them with respect you will get a better product. Throw in TQM and you will beat all competitors,
17 posted on 11/13/2019 6:29:12 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (Everything I Needed to Know About Islam I Learned on 9/11)
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In a nutshell...
Boeing has had, like Grumman had, a branch of the US. military in their pocket for so long, that they thought they could sell re-packaged, and refined ‘scat’ and sell it as ‘environmentally safe solid rocket fuel’, and the military would buy it with the glee of the kid under the tree on Christmas morning!!
With the outsourcing of civilian aircraft maintenance to offshore locations, the chance of ‘shade tree mechanics’ increases, with the anti-American stink plastered, as well.


19 posted on 11/13/2019 6:32:17 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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Boeing is in need of major changes, but I find it hard to believe that Congressional investigations are going to help the situation.


21 posted on 11/13/2019 6:41:21 AM PST by Truth29
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Maybe that Airbus tanker for the Air Force was the right solution all along?


23 posted on 11/13/2019 6:42:39 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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What’s wrong? Thinking they’re too big to fail, they’ve tried to relegate QA to a process. QC can be a process, but QA must have intellectual involvement to intervene when QC identifies process problems. And you cannot have a proven QC process without independent QA. But the real culprit: they sell QA/QC as part of their marketing portfolio, and the production line includes the rote QC, but real QA is a hindrance to the production schedule. After all, no QA manager receives his bonus for stopping the production line, does he?


25 posted on 11/13/2019 6:51:26 AM PST by Real Cynic No More (Make America Great. Prosecute Dems who break the law!)
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I was a contractor at a Boeing office a while ago. The purpose of the project was not to do any actual work on the project. The purpose was to convince the government to extend the project by many years and millions of dollars. The government seemed to encourage this behavior. It’s the only company where I have worked where I and my team were yelled at for being ahead of schedule or ahead of other teams because we were making them look bad.


26 posted on 11/13/2019 7:02:07 AM PST by Rad_J
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“It needs tough love — in the form of Congressional investigations.... “

Seriously??? An investigation by this congress???

While I agree that Boeing definitely needs a top down, major shake-up, the last thing this company needs is to be investigated by a bunch of complete blithering idiots. I’m pretty sure the average working guy in any of Boeing’s plants have multiple times more experience regarding the aerospace industry, than all 435 representatives combined.

I’ve gotten very tired of listening to these ignorant, holier-than thou people act like experts, just to try and make themselves feel relevant.


27 posted on 11/13/2019 7:02:34 AM PST by MCSETots
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So, another highly regulated company that must submit to a massive, growing gov’t agency for every detail is being attacked.

It should be the leadership and lifetime parasites at the FAA who are terminated from employment for not doing their jobs of oversight.

Boeing has its flaws, but if the federal agencies we spend billions for cannot prevent such mistakes, then we are wasting billions.


30 posted on 11/13/2019 7:17:16 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-group)
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I have defended the 737 MAX. Boeing may be a mess overall. When they fall short they should pay.

I still am not convinced that the 737 MAX had unacceptable instabilities in flight. Two crashes is enough for outsiders like me to jump to conclusions, but I have not. Also, those who stand to gain financially from the crashes are going to pile on.

The head of the FAA, a pilot, said he wanted to fly the 737 MAX. I need to hear from him or someone who’s done that. I’d like them to test a ‘MAX before the recent modifications.

Unfortunately, politics would probably preclude the testers from giving an honest answer.


32 posted on 11/13/2019 7:31:55 AM PST by cymbeline
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Like many US companies, Boeing used cheap, near-zero rate, fiat money from the Federal Reserve (like many US corporations) to Wall Street, to buy back their stock. They went deeply into debt, and spent $43 Billion to reduce outstanding shares by 25%. This had the effect of making management and their vested options very wealthy, by making earnings per share higher (fewer shares, same profit) and also goosing the stock price and increasing dividends.

Meanwhile, their cash-flow has been strong because they are in the sweet-spot of life cycles of airplanes like the 787.

Boeing has not used this money to increase R&D or new plane development, as its R&D budget has remained the same for the last 6 years. The problems with the 737 max are directly a result of that - they didn’t spend to develop a new airframe, rather attached new and more efficient engines to an existing 737 airframe. Now they have taken a $5 billion charge on the 737 max, and their cash flow is negative - all with the greatly added debt burden of the last 5+ years.

Will this short-term, Wall Street financial engineering come back to bite them? In some ways it has, but the company will really find out in 10 years, when the present crop of management is long gone.


34 posted on 11/13/2019 7:37:27 AM PST by PGR88
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At least they have a diverse work force.


35 posted on 11/13/2019 7:38:43 AM PST by subterfuge (RIP T.P.)
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