Posted on 10/28/2019 1:15:58 PM PDT by US Navy Vet
Ok here goes... Where/When did California get SO Screwed Up, I mean what was the pivotal Event/Year?
Latin American invasion pushed it blue. Only question left is whether or not the Latino majority politicians will run CA like Mexico or like the old white dems they are replacing?
Those heady days of “The Summer of Love”
It was the year after Reagan left office as governor.
I’m a California native, so I suppose I can comment on this.
I distinctly recall a sort of invisible sea change occurring right around the time that Reagan signed his amnesty bill. That would have been 1986.
Things began to quickly unravel after that, with the pace increasing year by year. By 2005 I’d had enough, and moved my business and family to Texas.
The first Jerry Brown term in the 1970’s. He stopped all road construction and the state never caught back up.
Remember the overpass to nowhere in San Jose?
Now we’ll be seeing those in the Central Valley with incomplete bridges for the high speed choo-choo. More Jerry Brown f-ups.
1986 when Reagan got schnookered into granting immigration amnesty. It’s been on a rocket sled ride to the Left ever since.
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Absolutely correct.
I'm pretty sure it was Bagster done it, all by his own self.
Yep.
Does an apple go rotten all at once, or does it start with a spot on one side?
When Zorro died......
Having Hollywood there doesn’t help. They’re the go to spokespeople for the deep state. But pivotal, I’d say this:
Bob Dornan, a congressman in the 90’s, was an over the top conservative - so far over that Al Franken was a friend. He was beaten by Loretta Sanchez by what appeared to me lots of illegal voting, which may have been retribution for him leaving intimidating signs at polling places the previous election. I think the Democrats in California made the Dornan/Sanchez election the template for all future elections, and eventually they took over the whole state.
Still here and will probably go down with the ship because the kids and grandkids wouldn't think of going anywhere else.
Thank God for the magnificent weather and beautiful beaches and mountains because the state died years ago.
It all started in Berkeley, 1964, with the “Free Speech Movement” under Mario Savio.
When out-of-state water supplies began being redirected into a desert with low carrying capacity, making it possible for a lot of people to live where they naturally shouldn’t be able to.
During Arnold’s time weren’t there a couple of ballot initiatives that were responsible in nature (Got around the rat legislature deadlock!) that were defeated. I seem to remember Arnold was criticized for not campaigning for them. They were defeated and he interpreted their defeat as ‘Californians don’t want them!’, so he essentially went to sleep as Governor.
We left in 2005. My wife and I quit high paying jobs and took a leap of faith. It has worked out great. I have a friend who has an opportunity to keep his high paying job and move here. He is proceeding with great haste.My folks left in ‘98. My dad couldn’t put up with all the taxes. He was retired so he wasn’t bound by a job. I think a lot of it has to do with a persons tolerance level and situation. I
1950’s when traffic was already snarled and illegal aliens were already pouring over the border. By the time he became governor of California in 1967 the place was already one screwed up mess.
I think I first noticed the homeless problem in San Diego in 1989 or 90. I was probably late in noticing this, so maybe mid 80s? I first noticed that LA downtown looked like a dirty Mexican downtown in 1991. Once again, I was probably a few years late on this. Tagging became especially popular in the early 90s, but it was around before that. I didn’t see gang writing growing up here in the 60s and 70s. The roads started declining greatly in the 90s, I believe. The agricultural center of our state dried up and died during the drought in the Obama years, when all the river water was diverted to help the Delta Smelt. You could go by miles of dead fruit and nut trees along Interstate 5.
I hope that sort of helps?
Also, I hate to say it in a conservative forum, but things changed after prop 13 passed. There was no longer a presumption that public school was supposed to be complete and of good quality. You could skimp on drivers ed and vocational or extracurricular stuff. People stopped assuming that comprehensive, good quality education was going to be paid for and provided. Then, also, the baby boom ended and now far fewer people have “skin in the game”. Not enough people have young children that they are willing to provide the basic things a State needs for there to be a successful next generation of taxpayers. They really don’t care or don’t see that without planning and sacrificing for the next generation, it all slides into Calizuela (or is it Venifornia?).
Anyway, it’s a shame, because California, the geographical location, is amazing. It’s California, the state government, that is on the wrong road.
It all started to go downhill after Sept. 9 1850. The day they became a state in our great Republic.
“When proposition 187 was held unconstitutional.”
It was before that. I lived there in the early to mid 80’s and noticed the decline then.
My answer would be in the mid 70’s with Gov. Moonbeam
The biggest driver for that move is housing prices - housing prices are so high employers need to pay correspondingly high wages to keep talent. The only fix to that problem is to build more housing.
But even here, a place that gets why the free market is the cornerstone of civilization, is overrun are NIMBYs who think we should use government power to zone everything single-family only.
Austin will end up in the same housing price death spiral as Portland unless it is willing to build large amounts of dense housing to accommodate the growing tech scene.
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