Posted on 10/28/2019 1:15:58 PM PDT by US Navy Vet
Ok here goes... Where/When did California get SO Screwed Up, I mean what was the pivotal Event/Year?
First Pat Brown, then son, Moonbeam.
Excellent essay and spot on.
The Spanish had thoroughly explored the coast by the 1750s, and knew that San Diego, Los Angeles and the Bay area (Monterey/SF) were the premier locations in Alta California. This was due not only to the obvious natural harbors, but also access to fresh water flowing from the inland mountain ranges combined with vast tracts of arable land. California was on everybody's radar long, long before either the Mexican war or the Gold rush. Here's what astute observers had to say:
In 1842, the US minister in Mexico, Waddy Thompson Jr., suggested Mexico might be willing to cede Alta California to settle debts, saying: "As to Texas, I regard it as of very little value compared with California, the richest, the most beautiful, and the healthiest country in the world ... with the acquisition of Upper California we should have the same ascendency on the Pacific ... France and England both have had their eyes upon it."
So, everyone coveted Alta California, to the extent that Polk offered Mexico $15m for the entire NW territory. They of course refused, lost the war, but then we still paid them the $15m! Now, what happens when you lose something that you held dear? You never forget, especially if it's as special and alluring as California. This sets the emotional tone, but how did the Mexicans end up actually re-conquering the territory?
The genesis of this goes back to the points made above about access to water and vast, vast stretches of arable land. Of course, everyone probably already knows that Calif has the best farm land on the planet. The earliest settlers certainly knew this from the start. OK, but what happens when you have labor shortages (before mechanization) and utterly massive crops to be harvested? You got it, Manuel Labor, hailing from south of the border. And because every 2nd-3rd generation says "forget that" to the concept of stoop labor all day in the hot sun, farmers and industry needed a constant new supply of labor every generation or so. Eventually, it was simple demographics that predicted the end state.
In the end, it was all very foreseeable. Everyone wanted a piece of the action - after all, who can blame anyone for lusting after paradise? One country lost it, but was able to inject its population right back into the territory. MX citizens vote with memories and history - as far as they're concerned, they're simply taking back what was once theirs. And as is true throughout history, if you don't defend what you've acquired, there are no guarantees you'll be able to hold onto it.
Liberty, freedom, territory, the American way of life - all impermanent, all easily lost in mere generations if constant vigilance is every relaxed. And, so here we are.
All I can tell you is that Cali was screwed up when I left in 1973.
” In 1999, Governor Gray Davis halted state appeals of this ruling.”
That was the point of no return. No other single event had as much impact, before and sense, than that decision to not appeal that erroneous ruling by a lowly district judge.
The initiative passed readily, and was clearly constitutional, but the machine would have none of it.
I'm able to travel quite a bit, and it's always somewhat remarkable how wealthy the SoCal white working class is relative to their socio-economic brethren in the rest of the USA. Typically in the rest of the country (excepting perhaps TX), trucks are mainly work vehicles. Not here - $75k+ jacked up 3/4 & 1 ton 4x4 rigs with perfect paint jobs that will never a single of cargo - other than perhaps towing an equally expensive boat or trailer are as common as illegals.
The fact that Calif is rich, self satisfied and a bit smug is probably the #1 thing that grates the hell out of everyone not here. So, as in all things, if you can't beat it, join it. Those that cannot stand what is happening, or never got an economic foot in the door are the ones most prone to complaining and/or leaving.
Everyone else is just along for the ride. And it's been a good ride - so far. As a born & bred native dating from the 60s, I can assure anyone that in my memory, the state has never been so wealthy or dynamic as it is today. It's not due to politics, but in spite of politics that allows the circus to continue. As far as weather, lifestyle and economic prospects, there simply is no substitute.
In the early 1980’s California’s 9th Circuit ordered the children in Los Angeles to be bussed. Poor kids were bussed to schools in the wealthier neighborhoods and the wealthier kids were bussed to schools in the poor neighborhoods.
White Flight ensued, middle class families fled the Los Angeles School District and moved to the surrounding areas.
Schools and businesses were closing, apartments were offering first 2 months rent free. People lost the equity in their homes and moved anyway.
The 9th Circuit judges made a law that affected an entire city, a million people.
Illegal aliens found jobs building homes on the outskirts of Los Angeles. Illegals rented the vacated housing in Los Angeles. The more people that lived in a house, the cheaper it was for the individuals.
The number of illegal aliens in construction chased out the legitimate middle class construction worker.
In 1991, gangs killed 771 people in Los Angeles.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1992-09-18-me-635-story.html
That was a lot of pain and suffering due to a few judges that had no authority to write law.
To get the illegal aliens to cooperate with the police, the City of Los Angeles enacted Special Order 40.
It was hoped that if the police didn’t question citizenship, then eye witnesses to murder would cooperate with the police.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Order_40
This made Los Angeles a sanctuary city.
All of this because unanswerable judges made a law to bus our kids.
We didn’t always give citizenship to anchor babies of illegal aliens.
In 1982, Justice Brennan slipped a footnote into his 5-4 opinion in Plyler v. Doe, asserting that “no plausible distinction with respect to Fourteenth Amendment ‘jurisdiction’ can be drawn between resident aliens whose entry into the United States was lawful, and resident aliens whose entry was unlawful.”
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/457/202
As the illegal aliens spread out to the rest of California, judge after judge after judge made it increasingly harder to deport them.
With the fear of being overrun by illegals, the citizens voted in 1994 on Proposition 187 to deny benefits to illegal aliens. We won by an overwhelming majority.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_California_Proposition_187
One judge, Mariana R. Pfaelzer of the 9th Circuit struck down our law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariana_Pfaelzer
There are many laws against illegal aliens. We have ICE and the Border Patrol but judges won’t let them do their job.
The IRS was giving them refunds knowing their identity was stolen. Illegal aliens get tax returns without claiming any income. The IRS gives illegal aliens ITIN cards, Individual Taxpayer Identification Number. Using an ITIN card illegals get to declare their families as dependents in their home country and they don’t have to prove they have a family.
Nobody made that a law. It was just some government employee’s decision.
Every effort to enact law, write new laws, has been struck down or modified by the courts.
These decisions are supported by the liberals.
President Trump has tried many ways to keep illegal aliens out of our country, but it only takes one of those over 600 district judges to overrule him.
President Trump said he is going to dump them in sanctuary cities.
President Obama was dumping the unvetted Muslim refugees from terrorist war torn countries in conservative cities, unannounced. Obama would just dump them without telling city officials. We don’t know if these refugees played kickball with people’s decapitated heads. We don’t know who they are.
And district judges tried to stop President Trump from keeping these unknowns out of our country. There are so many Muslims in our country now that they have elected Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib.
The 60’s... drugs, free love, etc etc. it started then when there was no discipline. Anything was OK. Those “kids” grew up ...and gave you the California of today. I watched it happen. The culture seemed to end with Charles Manson’s bloody murders and slithered underground...to seep up later and pollute a beautiful state.
1) The Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control Act of 1989. Signed into law by Republican Governor George Deukmejian.
2) In 1992, Republican California Attorney General Dan Lungren issued an official opinion that the SKS Sporter, believing that the rifle did not violate the Roberti-Roos law.
After about five years of these rifles being sold, AG Lungren issued a new opinion that he had been mistaken earlier and declared that these weapons did fall under the Roberti-Roos law and all owners were instant felons.
In 1998, the CA legislature provided some 'relief' by producing a bill that if the owners had bought these rifles in 'good faith' the state would 'buy back' these rifles at $230 a pop.
3)Some people did not comply with the "SKS Sporter" "buy back" and later tried to register them as "assault weapons" under the AWB of 1999 and had their registration paperwork rejected, were arrested for possessing assault weapons and had their rifles confiscated. Because the AWB of 1999 did not grant another registration period for "assault weapons" banned under Roberti-Roos.
Twice! It was voted on two times to keep the definition of marriage between one man and one woman. Stupid Efin' judge is right!!
“1986 amnesty coupled with the judicial intervention on Prop 187”
I agree.
So what you're saying is Texas is next, huh?
It actually started in WW2.
San Fran was a major in-processing center for draftees. Those that didn’t make the cut, usually for homosexuality and such, often decided to stay there instead of go back home. The reason they didn’t want to go back home was because why they got denied would become known.
And, during that period, Chicago money moved in and started buying up the mining rights all over CA. This moved the “Chicago Machine” politics to CA.
Gov. Pete Wilson backed a VERY GOOD BILL to NOT have ILLEGAL CHILDREN in SCHOOL at the TAXPAYERS EXPENSE!! It all went LEFT after that!
Absolutely correct. Governor Pat Brown, Jerry’s dad, had a rule in politics, you don’t mess with a man’s guns or his cars. Jerry ignored that and just kept going left.
Kesey’s Acid Tests preceded the Summer of Love. I would credit/blame them for TSOL
I think it was the summer of ‘74 when we took a family vacation to Eureka and San Francisco. Two things really stand out about SF. Dad wanted to drive through the red light district, probably inspired by the scene in “Dirty Harry,” and the acid/speed burnouts panhandling. The aftermath of the Haight/Ashbury scene.
Jesse Ventura? :)
Family moved me to coastal Oregon in 1969. Area was booming.
I had a pet rat named Radical. Just sayin’.
The Watts riots, sometimes referred to as the Watts Rebellion, took place in the Watts neighborhood of Los Angeles from August 11 to 16, 1965.
On August 11, 1965, Marquette Frye, an African-American motorist on parole for robbery, was pulled over for reckless driving. A minor roadside argument broke out, and then escalated into a fight with police. Community members reported that the police had hurt a pregnant woman, and six days of civil unrest followed.
Nearly 4,000 members of the California Army National Guard helped suppress the disturbance, which resulted in 34 deaths and over $40 million in property damage. It was the city's worst unrest until the Rodney King riots of 1992.
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