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Former Dallas Police Officer guilty of Murder
FoxNews ^ | 10/1/2019 | FOX NEWS

Posted on 10/01/2019 8:55:22 AM PDT by CaptainK

Amber Guyer guilty of murder, Just announced on FOX News

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KEYWORDS: amberguyer; amberguyger; dallas; donutwatch; guilty; guyer; police; texas
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To: grey_whiskers
He was holding the ice cream in a threatening fashion.

Perhaps she's lactose intolerant.

221 posted on 10/01/2019 11:24:07 AM PDT by zeugma (I sure wish I lived in a country where the rule of law actually applied to those in power.)
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To: central_va

She broke Texas law in entering a premise without consent, proceeded to double-tap and murder a person who was minding his own business and get this, in his own dwelling place too; that is not manslaughter in any State.


222 posted on 10/01/2019 11:26:10 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: outpostinmass2

Just my personal opinion, but I think it goes to her “state of mind” that she was texting and calling her married cop boyfriend. Shows that she didn’t have her mind in focus and it was wandering other places.


223 posted on 10/01/2019 11:26:17 AM PDT by taxpayerfatigue (Taxpayer Fatigue)
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To: yesthatjallen
A trained professional police officer should not be prone to panic.

Botham Jean's life was taken by the feminist movement and the women's rights movement. They have cursed our society with women in positions of power and responsibility they genetically cannot handle. All in the name of some perverse conception of equality. We are sitting ducks as a result of the political mental illnesses our elected officials seem to become afflicted with once they reach the halls of power. Our military is still at it. But those chickens have yet to come home to roost.

224 posted on 10/01/2019 11:29:21 AM PDT by 4Runner
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To: StolarStorm
Did they ever explain what the motive would be for murder versus manslaughter?

The article didn't say but the charge was increased to murder by the grand jury. From the article:

"Guyger, a four-year veteran of the Dallas Police Department, initially was charged with manslaughter. Two months later, a grand jury indicted her on a murder charge."

225 posted on 10/01/2019 11:31:28 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: wardaddy
Murder in Texas only requires intent to kill

DIRECT QUOTE from trial:

Prosecutor Jason Hermus: “When you pulled that trigger you intend to kill Mr. Jean?”

Amber: “He was the threat, yes sir.”


226 posted on 10/01/2019 11:33:02 AM PDT by ETCM
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To: EVO X

Recklessness is defined in the State of Texas under murder so a moot point especially when she was already in the process of criminally trespassing.


227 posted on 10/01/2019 11:35:10 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: nonliberal

“So a home invader can shoot you and it’s only manslaughter?”

That appears to be a common view.

Break into a house, shoot the homeowner and just say, “I walked into the wrong house!”

The police should just tell you to go about your day.


228 posted on 10/01/2019 11:38:04 AM PDT by Meatspace
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To: ETCM

Yes

I did not follow the trial admittedly

It took no time to convict

I had figured voluntary manslsughter with enhancement

But I was wrong


229 posted on 10/01/2019 11:38:59 AM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: ETCM
Murder in Texas only requires intent to kill

DIRECT QUOTE from trial:

Prosecutor Jason Hermus: “When you pulled that trigger you intend to kill Mr. Jean?”

Amber: “He was the threat, yes sir.”

Case closed. GUILTY.

230 posted on 10/01/2019 11:40:38 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: central_va

I thought that as well but I read up on Texas murder and manslaughter statutes

You only have to prove intent for a simple murder conviction which carries five to ninety nine years

She said verbatim she shot him to kill him

It’s just bizarre

She must have been scared or a crazy bitch or both


231 posted on 10/01/2019 11:43:44 AM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: bramps

I completely agree.


232 posted on 10/01/2019 11:45:43 AM PDT by Gator113 ( ~~Trump 2020~~ There needs to be a quieting of the screaming lambs.)
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To: rollo tomasi

We’ll see. It was manslaughter. She didn’t wake up in the morning and say to herself, “I am going to kill that guy that lives right above me”.


233 posted on 10/01/2019 11:45:51 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rollo tomasi
They also ought to nail her ass beyond the point of repair with a section 1983 violation, deprivation of civil rights under color of law.

4th Amendment surely covers eating ice cream in your own domicile without getting gunned down by a uniformed police officer without warning.

But, then again, qualified immunity, and no reasonable state actor would KNOW it would've been a violation, since there hasn't been any prior cases to create a "clearly established" precedent, amirite?

/wink, nudge to all the JBTs and boot-lickers out there>

The best way to pierce "qualified immunity" is this.

Would you let a non-policeman / non-bureaucrat get away with it?

234 posted on 10/01/2019 11:47:17 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: strings6459
This was the correct verdict and she should get the maximum.

My bet is an appellate courts will restore sanity here.

235 posted on 10/01/2019 11:47:37 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: zeugma
Oh! Look at the carton: "Ben & Jerry's".

In the dark, she must have misread that as "BANG and Jury"

236 posted on 10/01/2019 11:48:20 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: ExTxMarine

I would think the MARRIED status of her love interest explains her motivation for acting irrationally, hiding evidence, and generally just lying from start to finish.


237 posted on 10/01/2019 11:49:13 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: wardaddy

Texas only has designations for manslaughter with regard to intoxication manslaughter and just manslaughter, only degrees of recklessness which is also defined as murder in certain situations (Like the original topic). She was intending to cause bodily harm, cut and dry if you ask me.


238 posted on 10/01/2019 11:51:25 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: rollo tomasi

Thanks for the info. More info from a different source.

https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/what-amber-guygers-jury-is-considering-11768919

From the article:

“A Dallas County grand jury charged Guyger with murder last winter because she shot Jean on purpose. In Texas, someone commits manslaughter when they “recklessly cause the death of another individual.” If Guyger had shot through the door and inadvertently hit Jean, for instance, she might be on trial for manslaughter, according to legal experts.”


239 posted on 10/01/2019 11:53:34 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: central_va
I see where you are coming from, just don't agree, too many factors to prevent the stupidity of trespassing and she broke all kinds of training protocols which a LEO should be held in high regard to implement.
240 posted on 10/01/2019 11:54:34 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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