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Trouble with Tesla: Couple sold damaged car but told they can’t sue
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 27 Sept 2019 | Stephanie Zimmermann

Posted on 09/29/2019 8:59:17 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

When their new $110,000 car arrived from Chicago, it had undisclosed damage. The case highlights the difficulty in dealing with the company’s secretive arbitration system.

The detailer found paint overspray and sand marks on the rear bumper and flaws on a rear quarter panel.

The Nagers demanded a new, undamaged car, which Tesla refused.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicago.suntimes.com ...


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To: ProtectOurFreedom
It's an old photog trick. Avedon used it on the Duke and Duchess of Windsor to disarm their years of professional posing. He told them--avid dog lovers--that on the way to meet them for the sitting, his taxi ran over a dog in the street and killed it. Cheese!


21 posted on 09/29/2019 9:20:37 AM PDT by avenir
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To: fireman15

“I don’t trust any new or used car sales person or car dealer basically at all. “

Comforting to know that most politicians are far less ethical than these gonefs.


22 posted on 09/29/2019 9:21:33 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
"It's gotten very difficult for me to give a damn about most things that happen to progressives."

It's gotten very difficult for me to give a damn about most anything that happen to progressives.

23 posted on 09/29/2019 9:24:36 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: avenir

Corrugated neck...before botox came in vogue.


24 posted on 09/29/2019 9:26:14 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Tesla is known for such poor treatment. They could have got a nice Audi E-tron or Jaguar I-pace and at least been able to deal with someone face-to-face.


25 posted on 09/29/2019 9:30:26 AM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: setter

When I bought my Ford Probe GT in 1992, it had a ding in the left rear fender. Sales manager told me that he had done it himself, with the door of a hot Thunderbird SC he had been playing with.

He offered to either send it to the body shop at no charge to me, or knock $500 off the price. Since the paint wasn’t scratched, I took the $500 price reduction.

The car came from the dealer with it’s first parking lot ding! Had the car for twenty years, no more body damage.


26 posted on 09/29/2019 9:30:34 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Where’s Moonbeam? He’s usually quick to defend Tesla on these threads.


27 posted on 09/29/2019 9:31:26 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: setter

THE CASE OF THE $4 MILLION BMW

Gore sued BMW, and an Alabama jury awarded him $4,000 in compensatory damages and $4 million in punitive damages.

On remand, the Supreme Court of Alabama ordered a new trial unless plaintiff accepted a remittitur of all but $50,000 of the punitive damage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_of_North_America,_Inc._v._Gore


28 posted on 09/29/2019 9:32:56 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: Bonemaker
Comforting to know that most politicians are far less ethical than these gonefs.

That is an understatement.

29 posted on 09/29/2019 9:35:25 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: central_va

400 hp 2004 Corvette Z04

A very nice looking ride, why are you wasting time here?

You should be out cruising in your new ride!

Money rides, BS walks.


30 posted on 09/29/2019 9:35:29 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: dainbramaged

“If I had 110K to spend on a car, it wouldn’t be a Tesla.”

For about 95K you could be driving an all-wheel-drive Cherokee with 707 horses. 0-60 in 3.9 seconds, 3.5 according to private testers. 1/4 mile in the 11’s. And you don’t have to go recharge it after a couple of passes.

There’s nothing like a V8.


31 posted on 09/29/2019 9:37:07 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The internet has driven the world mad.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I haven’t bought it yet but I am thinking about it. For $25K it’s a bargain.


32 posted on 09/29/2019 9:37:27 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
The article is not really about Tesla, but about the rapidly increasing use of arbitration which disadvantages the consumer. Tesla (like other companies using arbitration) pays the arbitration costs, so it’s no surprise that arbitrators find for the company 75% of the time. An arbitrator who finds for the consumer too often will soon find himself out of work.

“The Nagers say they were never presented with a contract or arbitration agreement.” — Right. You can buy a car without a contract. There’s a nice bridge in New York City I should be able to sell them.

“The Nagers say they shouldn’t be bound by a contract they never saw nor signed — whether on paper or online. “I never pushed a button because I didn’t have a button to push,” Debbie Nager says.”

Poor ignorant Debbie! I can’t believe she admitted that for all the world to see.

Just Google “Tesla Purchase Agreement” and you get it. I suspect they just clicked on an “Accept” button not knowing they had just executed their purchase agreement. People are so used to clicking “Accept” online that most people think nothing of it and forget they actually did it. Here is how hard it is to get the Tesla agreement: Click Here.

The article says “Often, the language is buried deep inside a contract or online agreement.” Yes, Tesla really buried it deep in the agreement — go to the top of Page 2:

33 posted on 09/29/2019 9:40:36 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Junk that would not exist without federal grants and California mandates...


34 posted on 09/29/2019 9:43:14 AM PDT by northislander
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To: fireman15

typically better off buying a three year old car for about half the price. You expect something to go wrong, but typically the problems were ironed out by the previous owner.

I come from a long line of horse traders out of Scotland, our Prius V was a demo/new and one or two new motorcycles (I was a partner in a dealership).
Forever it was used Volvos or Subarus, look for a nice body and motor problems.
Tow it home and rebuild the engine.
Good to go!


35 posted on 09/29/2019 9:43:37 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: dainbramaged
If I had 110K to spend on a car, it wouldn’t be a Tesla.

If I had 110,000 to spend it wouldn't be a car My dream vehicle can get me from point A to point B without breaking down. It can also carry a bunch of crap. I think a pickup with a hitch will do it.

36 posted on 09/29/2019 9:44:08 AM PDT by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: Bonemaker

I’d bet she’s a nagger.

From the looks of it, she has been on him for a long time.


37 posted on 09/29/2019 9:45:57 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

So the nagger buying this talking piece is a CARDIOLOGIST. Wouldn’t it be interesting to see what ‘rights’ he makes his patients sign away before he’ll work on them.


38 posted on 09/29/2019 9:47:14 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: setter

We bought a brand new Camaro one time that once we got it home and started looking at it....the paint on the hood was so thin you could see through it in places. Called the salesman who talked to someone at the dealership and they said no, they won’t fix it. I sent the owner of the dealership an email telling him either they fix it or I’ll drive it through their showroom window. lol He sent me back an email that said...bring it in.


39 posted on 09/29/2019 9:47:14 AM PDT by sheana
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To: fireman15
Industry and most consumers have long known about the early “infant mortality” failures that you described. Most people don’t know that there is actually a name for this effect: the “Bathtub Curve”:


40 posted on 09/29/2019 9:48:46 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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