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Device generates light from the cold night sky
Tech Xplore ^ | 12 Sept 2019 | Cell Press

Posted on 09/12/2019 12:58:37 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

"Remarkably, the device is able to generate electricity at night, when solar cells don't work,"

"Beyond lighting, we believe this could be a broadly enabling approach to power generation suitable for remote locations, and anywhere where power generation at night is needed

The device developed by Raman and Stanford University scientists Wei Li and Shanhui Fan sidesteps the limitations of solar power by taking advantage of radiative cooling, in which a sky-facing surface passes its heat to the atmosphere as thermal radiation, losing some heat to space and reaching a cooler temperature than the surrounding air. This phenomenon explains how frost forms on grass during above-freezing nights, and the same principle can be used to generate electricity, harnessing temperature differences to produce renewable electricity at night, when lighting demand peaks.

Raman and colleagues tested their low-cost thermoelectric generator on a rooftop in Stanford, California, under a clear December sky.

(Excerpt) Read more at techxplore.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Science
KEYWORDS: energy; nonsolarcell; science; technology; thermoelectric
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For the many, so consumed with being trapped in an EV with a low battery in the cold.
1 posted on 09/12/2019 12:58:37 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

25 milliwatts of energy per square meter


2 posted on 09/12/2019 1:03:12 PM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: rigelkentaurus

Not great at the beginning, but they will make further advances.


3 posted on 09/12/2019 1:04:20 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
https://www.ted.com/talks/aaswath_raman_how_we_can_turn_the_cold_of_outer_space_into_a_renewable_resource/transcript?language=en#t-855101
4 posted on 09/12/2019 1:07:50 PM PDT by Cooter (Radicals always try to force crises because in a crisis, everyone must choose sides. - J. Goldberg)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Hi.

Getting closer and closer to Galt’s Gulch.

5.56mm


5 posted on 09/12/2019 1:08:26 PM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Post Hurricane Harvey “Hell Yeah”
(2 months without power and water... this is what makes me happy)
sarc/ big time


6 posted on 09/12/2019 1:09:41 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Damn the Torpedoes! Full Speed Ahead!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Not great at the beginning, but they will make further advances.

Recall the early ICE version, ‘Hit and Miss’ engines?
ICE has come a long way.

When these engines were designed, technology was less advanced and manufacturers made all parts very large. A typical 6 horsepower (4.5 kW) engine weighs approximately 1000 pounds (454 kg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hit-and-miss_engine


7 posted on 09/12/2019 1:10:50 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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"Remarkably, the device is able to generate electricity at night, when solar cells don't work,"

Yep, works great.

.

8 posted on 09/12/2019 1:12:10 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: rigelkentaurus

is that continuously or over a period of an hour?


9 posted on 09/12/2019 1:12:19 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: TexasTransplant

2 months without power and water...

Think of the bright side, you could have been in a Tesla in Alaska with a low battery; IN THE COLD!!!


10 posted on 09/12/2019 1:13:58 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: Cooter

NICE FIND!
Thanks.


11 posted on 09/12/2019 1:15:21 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: TLI

Yep, works great.

Until you run out of dead dino juice.


12 posted on 09/12/2019 1:16:15 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: TLI

We had a family here run one of those in their basement...


13 posted on 09/12/2019 1:29:38 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: rigelkentaurus

Is it 25 milliwatts per second then gradually sloping down as the energy is released toward ambient equilibrium because even 25 milliwatts continuously is a lot of energy over say 1 minute. With the right equipment it can charge batteries....so the article doesn’t say much.

25milliwats over 1 hour isn’t much but a continuous(albeit sloping amperage until 0 storage of heat is left.) 25 milliwatts per second over one hour is what 90watt/hrs which will power a laptop though amperage current is another issue which I assume will fall as the device’s thermal potential falls to ambient temp equilibrium.

Also as the thing heats up can energy start to be collected from the cold side because of the same thermo dynamic principles?


14 posted on 09/12/2019 1:33:40 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I wonder if the same principles could be used in certain nuclear power scenarios especially in deep space which would negate the need for turbine/steam or molten media to generate sufficient current for ship or deep space base operations. Plates are heated super warmly then as the heat radiates into space the thermal transfer is tapped for electrical energy and stored in batteries and/or slow discharge large value capacitors. No moving parts! The process is continuous or could be shunted by means of control rods via the reactor core.


15 posted on 09/12/2019 1:43:18 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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I wonder if the same principles could be used in certain nuclear power scenarios...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_thermal_rocket

And then there was that event in Mother Russia some weeks ago...
“an isotope power source in a liquid propulsion system”.
http://theconversation.com/nuclear-powered-missile-accident-in-russia-what-really-happened-121966


16 posted on 09/12/2019 1:53:14 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: Eddie01

Good way to kill rats. And everything else.


17 posted on 09/12/2019 2:09:22 PM PDT by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_effect

Thermoelectric device... Nothing new here.


18 posted on 09/12/2019 3:01:54 PM PDT by Bitman
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To: SunkenCiv

*ping*


19 posted on 09/12/2019 3:22:19 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Who will think of the gerbils ? Just say no to Buttgiggity !)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Just what is the light energy availability per square meter a night? I bet this cannot ever amount to much.


20 posted on 09/12/2019 4:16:19 PM PDT by GingisK
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