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Breaking, literally: Microsoft's fix for CPU-hogging Windows bug wrecks desktop search
The Register ^ | Sep 11, 2019 | Thomas Claburn

Posted on 09/11/2019 7:39:56 PM PDT by dayglored

One step forward, er, one step back. Nobody gets too far like that

Microsoft's build 18362.356 (KB4515384​​​​​) for its Windows 10 May 2019 Update (version 1903) rolled out on Tuesday with security improvements for Internet Explorer, Microsoft Edge, networking tech and input devices – and a CPU usage fix that, for some, has broken desktop search.

The security tweaks address a variety of speculative execution side-channel vulnerabilities known as microarchitecture data sampling (MDS) for 32-bit x86 versions of Windows. Intel dealt with the CVEs at issue – CVE-2019-11091, CVE-2018-12126, CVE-2018-12127, CVE-2018-12130 – in May.

The update, released concurrently with Build 17763.737 for the Windows 10 October 2018 Update (v1809), also includes security enhancements for assorted Windows components.

Microsoft says its update fixes a high CPU usage problem associated with SearchUI.exe reported by a small number of users who disabled searching the web via Windows Desktop Search.

But its fix has nixed SearchUI.exe for some. Those griping claim SearchUI.exe, a part of Cortana, won't launch after installing KB4515384.

"What a mess – I had the original issue with SearchUI.exe and it sending my CPU to unparalleled heights and showing a big black pane of nothing," wrote Reddit user cyrenaic101 in a complaint thread. "So I uninstalled that turd. And then here comes the 'fix' KB4515384. Search completely broken…"

Similar complaints surfaced in another Reddit discussion of the updates.

Among those who claim to have undone the snafu, solutions involve either reverting to an older build and blocking updates, enabling Bing search via the Windows Registry or replacing the Cortana Cache folder with a version from a previous working build.

In November last year, Microsoft published a blog post from Michael Fortin, corporate vice president of Windows, addressing concerns about the quality of Windows updates after a series of problems that culminated in the re-release of its Windows 10 October 2018 update.

Despite the problematic release, Fortin maintained that the quality of Windows releases has been improving. "Over the last three years one of our key indicators of product quality – customer service call and chat volumes – has steadily dropped even as the number of machines running Windows 10 increased," he said.

Microsoft did not immediately respond to a request for comment. ®


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: cortana; microsoft; windows; windows10; windowspinglist; windowsupdate
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To: Openurmind

Yeah i knew you could save changes, then ‘reburn’ the changes to a new disk (or to thumb drive) so that it includes all the changes you made, but not too sure how to do that- never really looked into it- I shoudl though, As I’ve got a LOT of changes I’ve made to my linux install, and would liek ot burn it’s current state onto a DVD so that i don’t have to keep making changes whenever I have to reinstall for whatever reason


61 posted on 09/12/2019 10:22:32 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Openurmind

[[Here’s a tip for you, I like to use the “synaptic” that is included with cinnamon also.]]

I get too confused about which files are needed when trying to install from stynaptic- it seems there’s a bunch of versions or something- or needed extra files, dependencies etc- and I’m never sure which ones are actually needed and which ones belong to a different version of the program IO’m looking at-

I really should learn how to install from synamptic though because like you said- it’s more recent on many things-

I’m sure it’s probably a lot simpler than I think it is- but it just seems confusing to me-


62 posted on 09/12/2019 10:26:46 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434

Try using the synaptic rather than the command line for downloads. everything available for command line download is also available in synaptic, just type in the name. In other words if the instructions for the app are for the command line, running it through synaptic will do all that for you instead of needing the command line. Synaptic turns the command line function into a point and click graphic interface and it’s easier to use.


63 posted on 09/12/2019 10:27:35 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

I have three expensive software packages that I which will not run on Win 10. If I want to keep using those packages, and I do, I must continue using XP. Once that becomes unusable I will purchase Linux versions.


64 posted on 09/12/2019 10:27:53 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Bob434

here is something else cool about linux, I have trusted the dependencies they suggest I also need for two years now and they have never steered me wrong or broke anything. They take pride that the system and actions are trustworthy. The only time I had any issues was when I went outside the linux system to a third party download. But this happens in Windows too. Takes just a few seconds to go take a snapshot of your system with “timeshift” before doing 3rd party app dowloads outside the trusted linux system repository so you can put it back as it was.


65 posted on 09/12/2019 10:37:11 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: GingisK

I see, Making tea in a traditional heirloom tea set until it gets broke.

I get it. :)


66 posted on 09/12/2019 11:17:29 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

I wonder in which language I posted to you...


67 posted on 09/12/2019 11:29:59 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Bob434
It’s not too hard ot make the CD- just download the mint ISO (I recommend the cinnamon version) and use a program to burn the iso to a disk- I think windows has a program already isntalled that can do so-

Then just pop the disk in, reboot your system, and a menu will coem up to boot to the CD- choose that and off you go into the wild blue yonder of linux nirvana lol

Okay, I'm trying it now. I (hopefully) have it burned to disk. I'll restart my computer now and see if there's a prompt that lets me boot up from the disk.

I'll let you know what happens in a minute or two.

68 posted on 09/12/2019 11:35:24 AM PDT by Windflier (Torches and pitchforks ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier

es please do- if you need help please ask- either i or others can hopefully help


69 posted on 09/12/2019 11:38:06 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434

Alright, it appears that I’ve already done something wrong. I rebooted the computer with the new Linux disk and nothing happened. Same boot up procedure as usual - and I’m still in Windows 10.

I’m wondering if the DVD even recorded the OS from the site. How can I tell?


70 posted on 09/12/2019 11:41:17 AM PDT by Windflier (Torches and pitchforks ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: GingisK

lol, just an analogy. Somethings you just get stuck with and want to use until it can’t be used anymore. like the software you still like or an antique teapot that still makes good tea even though new ones are available.


71 posted on 09/12/2019 11:43:29 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

And to add to the mix of ignorance, are those biting on “one password for all” being offered here and there.

People like this should really make life simple and use their social security numbers as their universal password, after all it is more that 8 characters.


72 posted on 09/12/2019 11:44:35 AM PDT by redfreedom
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To: Windflier

Just a copy of the files will not boot. It has to be written to the disk as a bootable “ISO image”. Do you have 7 or 10?


73 posted on 09/12/2019 11:48:46 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Windflier

https://www.pcsteps.com/1461-create-linux-installation-usb-dvd/


74 posted on 09/12/2019 11:51:31 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Windflier

I did that the first time too. lol

Keep in mind once you do have it right; it takes awhile to boot it from the disk. The screen will go black for quite awhile because it has to load the whole 2 gigs to temp storage in the computer before it comes on line for you. Once you actually decide to install it, it will boot FAST. :)


75 posted on 09/12/2019 11:55:53 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind
Just a copy of the files will not boot. It has to be written to the disk as a bootable “ISO image”. Do you have 7 or 10?

I have Windows 10.

But what went wrong during the download process? I put a fresh DVD into my disk tray and clicked on one of the US download sites.

A window popped up asking whether I want to open the file or save it. I chose save, thinking it would copy the files to the disk, but it saved them to my computer instead.

What did I do wrong?

76 posted on 09/12/2019 11:56:45 AM PDT by Windflier (Torches and pitchforks ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: redfreedom

Or syncing all your devices together.


77 posted on 09/12/2019 11:58:25 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: dayglored

Yep, it killed my desktop search, and I use that feature all the time. Annoying as hell not to have it.


78 posted on 09/12/2019 11:58:28 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Plans are worthless, but planning is everything. - Dwight Eisenhower, 1957)
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To: Windflier

I think probably you didn’t burn it as an ISO- If you have windows 10, right click on the file you downloaded, and choose ‘Burn disk image”

Hopefulyl htis is all you have to do- if it still doesn’t work- let us know- there are other methods to burn an iso


79 posted on 09/12/2019 11:59:19 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Windflier

You are good, that is what you want! always download into the PC first, because the PC has the tool to create the ISO image disk for you. Have you written to the disk yet? If so delete what you have on the disk. and I will give you the process from there.


80 posted on 09/12/2019 12:01:38 PM PDT by Openurmind
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