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Audience members fight each other to escape first screening of Holocaust film The Painted Bird [tr]
UK Daily Mail ^ | September 4, 2019 | Bridie Pearson-Jones

Posted on 09/04/2019 10:03:02 AM PDT by C19fan

A searing adaptation of one of most controversial books about the Holocaust divided critics at the Venice film festival Wednesday, with some fighting each other in the dark to get out of its first screening.

The Painted Bird based on Jerzy Kosinski's highly contentious 1965 novel about a Jewish boy surviving the worst human nature can inflict on him in an unnamed Eastern European country, was hailed as a masterpiece by some and an unwatchable ordeal by others.

But its staggering central performance from nine-year-old Czech Roma boy Petr Kotlar - who witnesses a panoply of depravity from incest, bestiality and rape to mutilation and murder - has had co-stars Harvey Keitel and Stellan Skarsgard as well as the critics in raptures.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: holocaust; movies; thepaintedbird
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To: MplsSteve

The democrat debates illicit that same feeling. Fortunately I just avoid tuning in at all to save myself that feeling of utter disgust toward a group of subhumans lying to the public on stage preaching their holier than thou virtue signalling BS.


21 posted on 09/04/2019 10:30:18 AM PDT by Boomer (Our melting pot has turned into a pressure cooker)
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To: gaijin

I get the distinct impression this is just torture-porn for the aristocrats that didn’t like “A Serbian Film” because it wasn’t artistic enough for their well-bred palates.

I’ll stick to Hitchcock.


22 posted on 09/04/2019 10:33:56 AM PDT by Retrofitted
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To: ckilmer

“is a dead western civilization in the interest of Israel or diaspora jews?”

Is ignorance and downplaying of the mass genocide of 6 million Jews, along with other minorities, worth trying to change the political evolution of Germany’s society? One evil does not make the other one less.

Let the cards fall where they may.


23 posted on 09/04/2019 10:34:21 AM PDT by one4perl
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To: gaijin

Agreed. I don’t mind most cruelty to humans being depicted in movies but absolutely can’t stand cruelty to animals, which immediately drives me out of the theater. Funny thing about animals, that mostly includes snakes for me. Indeed, it seems to have included some of the creators of the early James Bond movies, especially “From Russia with Love” (I think) where a tarantula is turned loose on James. I always wondered about it not bein a Coral Snake, to be played by a Coral King Snake. Then I though there would be a lot of 12 to 15 year old boys in the audience who knew their snakes and would laugh their bottoms off when they saw the “deadly snake” that was turned loose on Bond and knew how innocuous it was.


24 posted on 09/04/2019 10:38:11 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: C19fan

“Son of Saul” (Hungarian, 2015) is the most intense holocaust film I’ve ever viewed.


25 posted on 09/04/2019 10:39:51 AM PDT by dainbramaged (If you want a friend, rescue a pit bull.)
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To: C19fan

“incest, bestiality and rape to mutilation and murder - has critics in raptures”

The entire planet needs to rid itself entirely of the so-called “entertainment” industry — and start over from scratch.


26 posted on 09/04/2019 10:43:13 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: C19fan

But, but we’re told the Holocaust never happened so what’s the big deal?

/s


27 posted on 09/04/2019 10:47:44 AM PDT by bgill
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To: ckilmer

The shtetl of a learned Rabbi was threatened by a Dybuk:

The Rabbi went down the the river. From it’s banks he gathered together much mud, carefully forming into the shape of a powerful Golum with powerful shoulders and a stubby neck.

Reciting holy incantations he brought it to semi-life as a protector, and so obediant it was that it would automatically follow the Rabbi’s every order.

The Rabbi ordered his powerful Golum to defend his schtetl against the threat of the Dybuk, and indeed the Dybuk was swiftly killed.

Inspired, the Rabbi ordered his Golum to attack each and every enemy of the schtetl, and in time all was well.

Much later one night the Rabbi forgot to put his Golum to rest for the Sabbath, and enraged, the Golum also started attacking those peaceful villagers living in the schtetl.

The Rabbi himself is forced to do battle with his own creation.


Every Jew knows that story.

Why are so many violent, desperate, welfare-craving people from Africa?

They are intended to act as an Insurance Policy against “future white supremacy”.

The aim was not to make it less likely but to make it IMPOSSIBLE.


28 posted on 09/04/2019 10:49:35 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: C19fan

Given that the author was a close friend of Roman Polanski, the straightforward interpretation is that the story is the projection of the author’s personal sadism fantasies into the context of a historical event.

The 9-year old boy playing the protagonist has probably already been raped 100 times or more.


29 posted on 09/04/2019 10:53:00 AM PDT by thoughtomator (... this has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.)
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To: C19fan

Must have partied with Stephen King.


30 posted on 09/04/2019 10:54:54 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: samkatz

Fabrication in the sense, if I remember correctly, that he claimed everything in the book happened to him. What usually happens when publishers demand autobiography over fiction.

I saw Kozinski all the time in Manhattan in the 70s. Weird-looking guy.


31 posted on 09/04/2019 11:11:10 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: ClearCase_guy
"I think they are selling this as propaganda, encouraging Europe to "do the right thing" and drift into being more Pro-Muslim. You know: like Hitler was."

During WWI the Turks invented modern day genocide complete with death marches, mass rapes and murders of females of all ages and of course concentration camps.

32 posted on 09/04/2019 11:18:28 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: colorado tanker
"Harvey Keitel? Shoulda known he’d show up in a film like this."

Sounds like he's on the Gary Bussey career path.

33 posted on 09/04/2019 11:24:32 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: MplsSteve

“Woody Allen movies can elicit the same response.”

So do democrat speeches.


34 posted on 09/04/2019 11:35:39 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: C19fan

The title sounded like a children’s story, so I, then a child, tried to read it.

Somebody’s eyes were gouged out with a spoon, IIRC, then I put it down.


35 posted on 09/04/2019 12:56:21 PM PDT by mumblypeg
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To: one4perl

Let the cards fall where they may.
........
Even if the cards fall on America?

Even if the cards fall on Israel?


36 posted on 09/04/2019 1:21:20 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: dainbramaged
“Son of Saul” (Hungarian, 2015) is the most intense holocaust film I’ve ever viewed.

"War and Remembrance" a Made-For-TV series, had some of the most brutal depictions of The Holocaust.

37 posted on 09/04/2019 1:25:02 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: gaijin

The Rabbi himself is forced to do battle with his own creation.

Every Jew knows that story.
..........
When I lived in New York City, —there was a saying. Hardly a month or two would go by when you didn’t hear someone say. “What goes around. comes around.”

Jesus expressed the same point in two different ways.
In the lord’s prayer he said
“Forgive us our debts—as we forgive our debtors.”

That’s a frightening prayer if you read it backwards as well as forwards.

Later he would advise.

“Do to others what you would have them do to you.”

Which makes the same point only differently.

Jesus did not specifically prophecy Masada. Rather he predicted the destruction of the second temple in Mark 13.

“Do you see (all) these great buildings?” replies Jesus. “not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down”. This is the last reference made by Jesus to the Temple in Mark’s narrative. Jesus seems to anticipate that it will be destroyed, although he does not say when or how.


38 posted on 09/04/2019 1:37:10 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: dfwgator
"War and Remembrance" was an excellent series - hard to believe it was 30 years ago.
"Son of Saul" is about a member of the Sonderkommando - Jewish death camp prisoners forced to work in and around the gas chambers and ovens. After a few months, they were all murdered then a new group trained. Less witnesses that way. The film was nominated for an oscar IIRC.
There is very little on-screen violence, it's just off to the side. Grim subject to say the least.
39 posted on 09/04/2019 2:12:27 PM PDT by dainbramaged (If you want a friend, rescue a pit bull.)
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To: dainbramaged

Sounds like “The Grey Zone”


40 posted on 09/04/2019 2:14:16 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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