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Metal-detecting couple find one of Britain's biggest ever treasure hoards [tr]
UK Daily Mail ^ | August 25, 2019 | James Gant

Posted on 08/26/2019 6:23:24 AM PDT by C19fan

A metal-detecting couple have found one of the biggest treasure hoards in British history which is believed to be worth around £5million.

Adam Staples and partner Lisa Grace unearthed the 'once in a lifetime' find of almost 2,600 ancient coins that date back 1,000 years.

Although the find is smaller than the famous Staffordshire Hoard - the biggest collection of buried coins and artefacts discovered in Britain - it is thought to be at least £1million more valuable.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: coins; epigraphyandlanguage; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; hobby; metaldetector; treasure; uk
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To: C19fan

So, they didn’t shovel and shut up? Too bad.


21 posted on 08/26/2019 8:07:11 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: databoss

Or they will confiscate and compensate at face value.


22 posted on 08/26/2019 8:08:26 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: lefty-lie-spy

“Detectorist”
Interesting.


23 posted on 08/26/2019 8:25:18 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: Big Red Badger

There seems to be no other word that describes what we do. I don’t like this word either, but, “I’m a metal detector-er”, doesn’t quite fit, so I’m good with this usage for now.


24 posted on 08/26/2019 9:12:50 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay Metal)
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To: JimRed

The UK has very strict and peculiar laws regarding finding cultural artifacts. If it is one coin, you can keep it, but if it is two or more, it’s a “hoard”, and you will go to jail if you don’t reveal it. Of course it’s more complicated than that, but that’s basically it.


25 posted on 08/26/2019 9:15:16 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay Metal)
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To: 2banana
Pennies....made out of silver.

They used to mine silver in Cornwall and Devon in ancient times.
26 posted on 08/26/2019 9:31:55 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: C19fan

If the coins are 1000 years old, they aren’t ancient coins, they are medieval coins.


27 posted on 08/26/2019 11:52:45 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: lefty-lie-spy

“Mine Sweeper”
Is close
But
No Cigar!


28 posted on 08/26/2019 6:48:30 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: Big Red Badger

As not so patiently explained in the first episode of ‘The Detectorists’ (first two seasons available on Amazon Prime—worth checking out) the machine is a metal detector, the operator is a ‘detectorist’.


29 posted on 08/26/2019 9:01:00 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: lefty-lie-spy

The UK has very strict and peculiar laws regarding finding cultural artifacts.


I believe it is more complex than that. Something lost is one thing, something hidden or buried is treasure trove. Which is which is determined, I believe, by the coroner. Treasure trove belongs to the Crown. But the Crown pays fair value for anything a museum might want. The rest goes to the finder and landowner. By paying fair market value, it encourages people to report finds which can be then be properly examined by archeologists, historians, etc.


30 posted on 08/26/2019 9:06:11 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Red Badger; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks Red Badger.

31 posted on 08/26/2019 10:14:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: proxy_user
Under the Treasure Trove Act of 1996, the finder and the landowner get to split the money with the government.

Fixed it for you.

32 posted on 08/26/2019 11:57:51 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The Electoral College is the firewall protecting us from massive blue state vote fraud.)
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To: Fresh Wind

The government doesn’t get any money. All it means is that they have to give museums the opportunity to buy them first. Both landowner and discoverer get to split the value of the coins whether the museum buys them or not.


33 posted on 08/27/2019 2:30:30 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
The government doesn’t get any money.

Of course they do. You've heard of taxes, right?

And who decides what the stuff is worth? Would that be the free market or the "experts" at the museum?

Do the finder and the landowner get to refuse the museum's offer if they think it's too low? And would that be a private or government museum?

And what if the finder and landowner really like the stuff and want to keep some or all of it for their respective "collections"?

There might be VAT tax due immediately on the appraised value of the stuff. That would effectively force the find to be liquidated.

The right way to do that would be to consign it to an appropriate auction house so that museums and private buyers could compete in a fair and open process.

One advantage I do see with the law is that it would tend to prevent disputes between the finder and the landowner which could be brutal if a lot of money is involved.

34 posted on 08/27/2019 3:53:42 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The Electoral College is the firewall protecting us from massive blue state vote fraud.)
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To: Fresh Wind

I used to work as a commercial numismatist, they go off the values published in the latest ‘Spink’ catalogue, not some made up figure they pulled out of their arse.


35 posted on 08/27/2019 4:15:54 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: hanamizu

That is correct. I just don’t want to type that much via iPhone. Thank you for clarifying for everyone. (I’m listening to my metal detecting podcasts as I now type during my walk home.)


36 posted on 08/27/2019 6:51:05 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay Metal)
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To: Pride in the USA

“The Dectorists” is one of the most charming programs that has ever graced my television. Love it!


37 posted on 08/27/2019 12:27:42 PM PDT by lonevoice (diagonally parked in a parallel universe)
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To: SunkenCiv

Amazing find. With the Normans grabbing everything they could find Harold II coins must be exceedingly rare. Harold and William coins together - amazing. Apparently, the owner didn’t live past the Conquest long enough to dig them back up.


38 posted on 08/27/2019 3:10:07 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker
Or, he or she buried a number of caches, and eithermore are to be found nearby, or never got to this one. :^)

39 posted on 08/28/2019 12:33:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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40 posted on 08/28/2019 1:48:36 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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