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Thieves Steal a Tesla Model S in Under 30 Seconds Using a Relay Device
The Drive ^ | 22 aug 2019 | Jerry Perez

Posted on 08/24/2019 9:56:09 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

Surveillance footage captured by the homeowner's doorbell camera, first spots an individual wearing a hoodie making his way into the driveway via an unlocked front gate. Shortly thereafter, a second individual follows suit and proceeds to open a larger set of gates directly behind the parked Tesla. Meanwhile, the first individual, who has a backpack strapped to his chest, raises his arms and walks closer to the house as if looking for something or "scanning" through the walls. According to the outlet, the thief is actually carrying the relay device inside his backpack and is holding sensors in his hands, which is why he slowly combs the exterior walls until they sense the wireless key's signal and relay it to the car.

(Excerpt) Read more at thedrive.com ...


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KEYWORDS: elonmusk; falcon9; falconheavy; spacex; tesla
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A sad story but fun to watch.

Must be old unemployed German rocket scientists?

Has this technique made it to the USA? Only works with Tesla?

1 posted on 08/24/2019 9:56:09 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj3ZRv9cMBw


2 posted on 08/24/2019 10:02:45 AM PDT by Chode (Send bachelors, and come heavily armed!)
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Whenever it happened I was home!!!

Always blaming the Italian in the room :)


3 posted on 08/24/2019 10:04:13 AM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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Doesn’t seem like there would be a big market for stolen Tesla parts and it would be dicey selling them.


4 posted on 08/24/2019 10:10:58 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The internet has driven the world mad.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Has this technique made it to the USA? Only works with Tesla?

Not yet but it will now.........With these new electronic keyfobs, I don't see why it wouldn't work on today's keyless vehicles....

That's a high end car and those two guys are pros (the first guy looks white) The car is likely destined for resale unlike typical thefts here in S.E. Michigan where cars are stolen regularly and found stripped in back alleys or abandoned lots......

There's no market for Tesla body parts or wheels since the people who own them will have them serviced by the Tesla dealers rather than Joe's garage or body shop down the street......

This job reminds me of the movie "Gone in 60 Seconds"...LOL!

5 posted on 08/24/2019 10:13:01 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm in the cleaning business.......I launder money)
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why would anyone want to steal a Tesla? ... oh yeah, parts ...


6 posted on 08/24/2019 10:13:53 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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I’ve read that keyfob owners in the USA should wrap their fobs with tin foil, go figure.


7 posted on 08/24/2019 10:17:37 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The internet has driven the world mad.)
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Dibs on the idea for a designer Faraday cage key fob holder.


8 posted on 08/24/2019 10:18:08 AM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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If the vehicle requires an actual physical “key” to drive it then this would not work? And how far can you go without the FOB signal close by?

Seems only those types that have a push-button “Start” would be susceptible?

9 posted on 08/24/2019 10:25:19 AM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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Not yet but it will now.........With these new electronic keyfobs, I don’t see why it wouldn’t work on today’s keyless vehicles....

How it works: Note: This information is given for educational and reference purposes only. Hacking for malicious purposes is an illegal activity which is punishable by the law.

https://hackernoon.com/signal-amplification-relay-attack-sara-609ce6c20d4f

A partial list from 2015 of hackable key fobs:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2016/03/21/audi-bmw-ford-thief-car-hacking/#41568c8d4f1e


10 posted on 08/24/2019 10:28:36 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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Tesla sounds Italian?.
kind of?
And they are FAST!


11 posted on 08/24/2019 10:29:44 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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Apr 15, 2015 - Last week, I started keeping my car keys in the freezer, and I may be at ... It happened to Simon, who lives across the street from me and has a Toyota Prius. ... thieves are able to drive away with the cars without needing a key.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/16/style/keeping-your-car-safe-from-electronic-thieves.html


12 posted on 08/24/2019 10:35:44 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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From what I read, the fob has to be in reasonable proximity for the relay to reach out to both the fob and the car. It wouldn’t work if your car were parked in a Walmart parking lot and you were inside shopping.....


13 posted on 08/24/2019 10:37:18 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm in the cleaning business.......I launder money)
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Depends on the sensitivity of the antenna involved.


14 posted on 08/24/2019 11:47:57 AM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and Americans!)
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15 posted on 08/24/2019 11:48:54 AM PDT by Bon mots
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"Doesn’t seem like there would be a big market for stolen Tesla parts and it would be dicey selling them."

Put in a container and ship to a $#ithole nation.

16 posted on 08/24/2019 12:08:05 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Bon mots

Just another day of California traffic?
The jerk in the Jeep ran the light, probably an illegal, just jacked it.


17 posted on 08/24/2019 12:08:43 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Has nothing to do with a "relay". Apparently, it's an RF signal recorder/player. I use them at work all the time, for legitimate purposes.

Tesla must have some crappy tech in their car, though, because most car remote fobs are of the "rolling code" variety. The codes change in a predictable mathematical way each time you press the button.

18 posted on 08/24/2019 12:15:14 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Enjoy the decline of the American empire.)
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Doesn’t seem like there would be a big market for stolen Tesla parts and it would be dicey selling them.

I understand Tesla refuses to sell parts to owners or independent garages. You can only get parts if you have Tesla do the work. So, there really is a market for Tesla parts, stolen or otherwise.

19 posted on 08/24/2019 12:20:52 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The Electoral College is the firewall protecting us from massive blue state vote fraud.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

most car remote fobs are of the “rolling code” variety. The codes change in a predictable mathematical way each time you press the button.

In the above posts are links to test of other manufacturers with the same problem.

I don’t think it records/plays, but simply boost the signal so the car receiver believes the transmitter is nearby?


20 posted on 08/24/2019 2:30:34 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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