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"Proceed to Rome and desolate that city." ~ The Sack of Rome by Alaric, August 24, AD 410
Gloria Romanorum ^ | August 24, 2019 | Florentius

Posted on 08/24/2019 6:29:36 AM PDT by Antoninus

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Long but worth reading on the anniversary of this history-changing event.
1 posted on 08/24/2019 6:29:37 AM PDT by Antoninus
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To: Antoninus

Bump


2 posted on 08/24/2019 6:37:00 AM PDT by gibsosa
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To: SunkenCiv

Ancient History/Fall of the Empire ping.


3 posted on 08/24/2019 6:37:20 AM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: ebb tide; Salvation; Mrs. Don-o

Catholic ping.


4 posted on 08/24/2019 6:38:08 AM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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Interesting strategies.

Cut off food supplies.

The lower class gets upset at the elite and turns against them.

Is this what is happening in China right now through Trump’s economic warfare?

China keeps its manufacturers junk, we keep our food.


5 posted on 08/24/2019 6:39:21 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Antoninus

I may have missed it but the article seems to have omitted that Alaric was a Christian also - an Arian Christian but still one.


6 posted on 08/24/2019 6:47:27 AM PDT by Reily
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I may have missed it but the article seems to have omitted that Alaric was a Christian also - an Arian Christian but still one.

I think it's generally believed that the Gothic warlords were "Arian Christians in name only". They certainly didn't behave like Christians as the monk points out in the article above. That said, the article does point out that Alaric was willing to spare the treasure of the churches of Rome and even make sure they received safe passage to sanctuary at St. Peter's basilica.
7 posted on 08/24/2019 6:52:10 AM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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It’s worth mentioning that both Sozomen and Orosius wrote in the days before the much more devastating sack of Rome by the Vandals in AD 455. At that point it became clear that the prostration the city had suffered under Alaric was not a singular event—and that much worse might be expected in the future.


It is a process of many events. The decline of the USA is many events, not just one. The rebuilding is also many events.

Let me repeat that, many SMALL events.

Many here criticize Trump because he has not won the war. Folks we have a lot of small winnings, never forget them or how important they are.


8 posted on 08/24/2019 6:57:26 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Antoninus

Yeah they behave like Dark Age warlords, as did the Romans - East & West!


9 posted on 08/24/2019 7:01:13 AM PDT by Reily
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The search for the tomb and treasure of Alaric
https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/archaeologists-launch-official-search-treasure-king-alaric-sought-nazis-020574


10 posted on 08/24/2019 7:24:45 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change.)
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The future of the USA if the mob ("progressives"--or whatever their newspeak nom du jour might be) have their way.

The oblivious Americans will wake fast from their comas when violent gangs of illegal immigrants invade their homes, but it will be far too late!

11 posted on 08/24/2019 7:27:27 AM PDT by Savage Beast (When the Light of Truth threatens to expose corruption, it's the corrupt who try to extinguish it.)
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Yeah they behave like Dark Age warlords, as did the Romans - East & West!

Not all of them. A few actually behaved like Christians.
12 posted on 08/24/2019 7:47:54 AM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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Actually the assessment is wrong.
The high point of the Roman Empire was before there ever was Christianity.
It was a true Republic where Roman Citizens were valued and the Senate and Emperor paid attention to those who they administered.

Eventually the cost of fighting wars all thru the Empire became the first dent in the armor of Rome.
Paying off the debt while trying to placate the Plebes (also known as the mob) with things and trinkets from far off lands only increased the need for more wars.

All this happened before Christianity.


13 posted on 08/24/2019 7:49:19 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: silverleaf

Now THAT is a story worthy of an Indiana Jones movie.


14 posted on 08/24/2019 7:49:57 AM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: Antoninus

A few..so few I can’t think of any!


15 posted on 08/24/2019 7:50:11 AM PDT by Reily
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Actually the assessment is wrong.

What assessment? I think you are assessing something quite different from what this article is talking about.
16 posted on 08/24/2019 7:51:03 AM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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Constantine the Great — he repented of his sins and was baptized at the end of his life.

Theodosius the Great — he made a public penance of his sins.

Plucheria — Empress and Saint.

Marcian — Was generally a good emperor during a difficult time.

Maurice — A great emperor and possible martyr.

Just off the top of my head.


17 posted on 08/24/2019 7:58:38 AM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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“All persons of good sense were aware that the calamities which this siege entailed upon the Romans were indications of Divine wrath sent to chastise them for their luxury, their debauchery, and their manifold acts of injustice towards each other, as well as towards strangers. “

Sounds ominously familiar...


18 posted on 08/24/2019 8:00:20 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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“Many here criticize Trump because he has not won the war. “

In the dark days of 1942 people in this country were afraid we’d lose the war.

It takes faith and perseverance. Guts and commitment and sacrifice.

Our current situation both at home and with China are conflicts in it their infancy. There is still a long way to go with many more battles to be fought.


19 posted on 08/24/2019 8:11:00 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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**Now THAT is a story worthy of an Indiana Jones movie.**

Or a “Harry Steele” movie like “The secret of the Incas”.
The original Indiana Jones, fedora and all. But Charlton Heston is dead.


20 posted on 08/24/2019 8:23:39 AM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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