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Wikipedia Editors Attempt To Delete Sci-Fi Author Pages They Deem Right-Wing
One Angry Gamer ^ | July 24, 2019 | Billy D

Posted on 07/27/2019 2:32:41 PM PDT by tbw2

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To: tbw2

The Nazis of the 1940’sa burned books and gassed people; Nazis of the 21st century eliminate web pages and Wikipedia facts


21 posted on 07/27/2019 3:47:41 PM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: I-ambush

Thank you. My husband loves the movie.


22 posted on 07/27/2019 3:48:18 PM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: doorgunner69

Thank you & see my #20 post!


23 posted on 07/27/2019 3:50:07 PM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: tbw2
This is actually happening on his talk page, where some people voting to keep the page are being accused of brigading the vote.

The same thing is also happening to the other two sci-fi authors that Williamson brought up in his Facebook post, Sarah Hoyt and Tom Kratman.

If you visit Kratman and Hoyt’s Wikipedia pages, they’re both up for deletion, just as Williamson mentioned.

Williamson is a noted author of military science fiction. Hoyt and Kratman and also very good.

I think that much of the push back started with the revelations of Moira Greyland of child molestation and cover up by the sci-fi community about the child abuse. Not just ignored but actively covered up.

The first time most people heard about Robert Mueller was when he took over the case of David Asimov on a major child porn investigation - and promptly disappeared the case.

Moira Greyland, Marion Bradley's daughter, went public with her accusation on the blog of the author Deirdre Saoirse Moen earlier this month, giving Moen permission to quote from an email in which she wrote: “The first time she molested me, I was three. The last time, I was 12, and able to walk away … She was cruel and violent, as well as completely out of her mind sexually. I am not her only victim, nor were her only victims girls.”

Greyland is the daughter of Bradley and Walter Breen, who was jailed for child molestation and died in prison. Greyland wrote in her email to Moen: “I put Walter in jail for molesting one boy ... Walter was a serial rapist with many, many, many victims (I named 22 to the cops) but Marion was far, far worse.”

There has been a very wide split in the "professional" science fiction community for a long time, and has continued into the left's fantasy world of climate change, socialism and perversion.

24 posted on 07/27/2019 3:50:32 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: KC_Lion

also called fossil gas

There is no reference for that parenthetical statement. But looking at the edits, when someone tried to call it “freedom gas” the edit was undone because - there was no reference.

Wikipedia is it’s own kind of fake news.


25 posted on 07/27/2019 3:54:38 PM PDT by beef (Caution: Potential Sarcasm - Process Accordingly)
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To: leaning conservative

I enjoyed the movie, too. But the movie is a distorted shadow of the book. And I’ll let it explain what “the franchise” is and how it’s earned.


26 posted on 07/27/2019 3:55:11 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: leaning conservative
I have never read Heinlein. I don’t care for sci fi, but I have always wanted to check him out. What do you recommend for a first, and possibly only read, of his?

I've read most everything Heinlein wrote. Like all good sci-fi, his books are not about the sci or the fi. They're about human nature, sometimes tested in unnatural circumstances.

My Mom, who was not a big sci-fi fan liked "The Door into Summer". Nominally a time-travel book with several twists and a lot of Heinlein's humor, and also his love for cats.

"The Puppet Masters" is probably one of the best of the conspiratorial, trust-no-one stories, exciting, but lighter on the character development.

"The Star Beast" is one of Heinlein's juvenile books, although as with all his juveniles like "Have Space Suit Will Travel" or "Podkayne of Mars", the themes are adult, and the dangers are real. In "Podkayne", the main character dies heroically, which is unusual for a juvenile. "The Star Beast" is one of the funnier Heinlein juveniles involving a small alien pet. Think of it as somewhat analogous to the Star Trek episode "The Trouble with Tribbles".

I personally think one of Heinlein's best of the more hard-core sci-fi books is "Starship Troopers". He really explores a multitude of ideas here including why governments collapse and possibly how to prevent such a collapse, duty, honor, family bonds. He also posits some interesting sci-fi gear for his space marines including aero-pods allowing the marines to parachute onto a planet from orbit as well as muscle enhancing armor (think "Aliens" Power Loader Exo-skeleton).

27 posted on 07/27/2019 4:01:24 PM PDT by Flick Lives (MSM, the Enemy of the People since 1898)
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To: tbw2

Tagline...


28 posted on 07/27/2019 4:02:19 PM PDT by null and void (The Left isn't banning "Hate Speech", they are banning speech they hate. BIG difference.)
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To: doorgunner69

Stranger in a Strange Land is a masterwork.

If you’re reading hippy dippy stuff into it then you missed the point.

The other one I’d recommend for an adult reader would be The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, which no one could possibly interpret to be anything other than violently American in spirit.


29 posted on 07/27/2019 4:06:52 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The Clinton Coup attempt was a worse attack on the USA than was 9/11)
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To: thoughtomator; leaning conservative

Has no one here read Farnham’s Freehold?


30 posted on 07/27/2019 4:12:47 PM PDT by null and void (The Left isn't banning "Hate Speech", they are banning speech they hate. BIG difference.)
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To: Flick Lives

Thanks so much. And we have a feral cat that we tamed, so there’s that. At this point I feel like I am going to delve into more than one of his books.


31 posted on 07/27/2019 4:17:42 PM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: tbw2

BOYCOTT these naziesque censors

their Aiding and Abetting anti-americans will one day be sufficient to eventually send these apparatchiks running for their lives

- A mere prediction.


32 posted on 07/27/2019 4:17:46 PM PDT by elbook
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To: leaning conservative

I read all of Heinlein’s works growing up.

I highly recommend “Time Enough for Love” and “I will Fear No Evil.”

Time Enough for Love is a story about a secret society of people who genetically have unusually long lives and intermarry to increase the years of their offspring. The story of Lazarus Long.

I Will Fear No Evil is the story of an old billionaire who’s health is failing, and he arranges to find a “body donor” (innocent, from an accidental death) into which his brain will be transplanted. The donor turns out to be an attractive young woman.

Both are very good reads (if memory serves - it’s been a while).


33 posted on 07/27/2019 4:19:08 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: null and void
Has no one here read Farnham’s Freehold?

Yep. I think I've read all 50+ of his novels. My favorites were Citizen of the Galaxy, Starship Troops, Have Spacesuit, Will Travel, Podkayne of Mars, Methusaleh's Children and the Moon Is a Harsh Mistress. His later novels were too sexual for my taste.

34 posted on 07/27/2019 4:24:28 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (Seek you first the kingdom of God, and all things will be given to you.)
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To: tbw2

Wikipedia is a leftist-leaning web site. It was only a matter of time before this started.

Although I have noticed the deletion notice has been removed, I guess, from Sarah Hoyt’s page but not Tom Kratman’s page.

I’ve read both pages and can’t find anything objectionable.

This attitude is a shame. Wikipedia has always been a go to place for information. Maybe no more.


35 posted on 07/27/2019 4:27:56 PM PDT by upchuck (No muzzy is fit to hold public office - their cult (religion) is incompatible with the Constitution.)
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To: null and void; leaning conservative

I have read every word Heinlein ever put to paper, I think.

I had a Heinlein phase where I would consume anything associated with him. So any of his 70+ books and countless short stories, I know them all.

Farnham’s Freehold is also an excellent recommendation. Will never read anything similar, I’m sure. Hard to discuss that one without spoiling key story elements tho.


36 posted on 07/27/2019 4:33:50 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The Clinton Coup attempt was a worse attack on the USA than was 9/11)
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To: I-ambush
Unlike the movie, it is a utopian novel about a civilization in which the only path to citizenship is through military service.

NO, not JUST military service, PUBLIC service like picking up garbage or some other low-level but necessary community service! Even if one was a quadriplegic, the volunteer had to have a way to become a citizen with the voting franchise. IIRC, the easier the job, the longer the service requirement.

37 posted on 07/27/2019 4:34:11 PM PDT by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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To: Reno89519

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38 posted on 07/27/2019 4:44:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SES1066

My recollection was that those who volunteered were not spared the risk of life or limb, even if they were disabled.


39 posted on 07/27/2019 4:56:43 PM PDT by I-ambush (One foot in the grave, one foot on the pedal I was born to rebel.)
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To: SES1066

In fact, there was the episode with the merchant marines who tried to start a fight with the service men because they resented the fact their jobs did not qualify for citizenship.


40 posted on 07/27/2019 5:01:55 PM PDT by I-ambush (One foot in the grave, one foot on the pedal I was born to rebel.)
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