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One giant ... lie? Why so many people still think the moon landings were faked
The Guardian ^ | 07-10-2019 | Richard Godwin

Posted on 07/10/2019 10:21:39 AM PDT by NRx

It took 400,000 Nasa employees and contractors to put Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin on the moon in 1969 – but only one man to spread the idea that it was all a hoax. His name was Bill Kaysing.

It began as “a hunch, an intuition”, before turning into “a true conviction” – that the US lacked the technical prowess to make it to the moon (or, at least, to the moon and back). Kaysing had actually contributed to the US space programme, albeit tenuously: between 1956 and 1963, he was an employee of Rocketdyne, a company that helped to design the Saturn V rocket engines. In 1976, he self-published a pamphlet called We Never Went to the Moon: America’s Thirty Billion Dollar Swindle, which sought evidence for his conviction by means of grainy photocopies and ludicrous theories. Yet somehow he established a few perennials that are kept alive to this day in Hollywood movies and Fox News documentaries, Reddit forums and YouTube channels.

Despite the extraordinary volume of evidence (including 382kg of moon rock collected across six missions; corroboration from Russia, Japan and China; and images from the Nasa Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter showing the tracks made by the astronauts in the moondust), belief in the moon-hoax conspiracy has blossomed since 1969. Among 9/11 truthers, anti-vaxxers, chemtrailers, flat-Earthers, Holocaust deniers and Sandy Hook conspiracists, the idea that the moon landings were faked isn’t even a source of anger any more – it is just a given fact.

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Conspiracy; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: 911truthers; antivaxxers; apollo11; billkaysing; chemtrailers; fakenews; flatearthers; grauniad; holocaustdenial; kaysing; moonlanding; sandyhookparanoia
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To: circlecity

“If you have a good telescope, can you see items that we left behind on the moon? (ie. flag, rover, etc.)“

Sorry, no. But, happily, you can see the rings around...


121 posted on 07/10/2019 3:26:29 PM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: C210N

Oh, absolutely, the number of proofs from every angle is overwhelming. Radio transmissions for just one. But that isn’t going to convince anyone who can’t understand it, they have to take someone else’s word for it. Now that’s a whole ‘nother issue by itself, but...

I’m just pointing out the landscapes - without being a technician or math whiz or posessing any special scientific knowledge, should be enough for any rational person. There is a certain beauty to it, that is sort of reminiscent of the high desert. Just manificent desolation, as Buzz Aldrin called it. There’s just no way to fake that convincingly.

For me it would be really fun to zook along about 500 feet off the deck through the lunar mountains. That’s one thing that was kind of sad about Apollo 17, the way the LM was oriented during PDI they didn’t get any footage when they were level with the surrounding terrain (mountains) and below. During PDI they go from something like 40,000 miles an hour to hovering like a helicopter in about 10 minutes, it must have been something.


122 posted on 07/10/2019 3:29:52 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Richard Kimball

“...Seems to be a concerted effort to make people crazy”

Golly gee, nothin’ gets past you, does it? /s


123 posted on 07/10/2019 3:32:15 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: mowowie

I remember reading once an old wives tale that Frogs cause warts.

I have handled a Frog one time in my life that I can recall. About a week later I had a wart on my thumb. That doesn’t prove anything, but it sure seemed weird at the time. I’m not sure if I even knew of the Frog/Wart tale connection at the time.


124 posted on 07/10/2019 3:36:31 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: bantam

There’s not a telescope in existence powerful to see objects that small on the moon from Earth, or even from Earth orbit. The Chinese, however, put a satellite into moon orbit which did capture images of the Apollo landing sites.


125 posted on 07/10/2019 4:16:35 PM PDT by Lurker51
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To: grumpygresh

Yes, as the author of this article does, conflating one controversial issue with others as though all are equally beyond dispute.


126 posted on 07/10/2019 5:18:03 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: KC_Lion

Capricorn One?


127 posted on 07/10/2019 5:19:16 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: NRx
Wait until we land on Mars:

Capricorn One


128 posted on 07/10/2019 5:41:07 PM PDT by Oatka
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To: kosciusko51
There have been “serious FReepers” who were chemtrailers, crop circlers, antivaxxers, 9/11 truthers. So why not moon hoaxers.

Posting on FR is no guarantee against credulity.

129 posted on 07/10/2019 7:14:51 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Power is more often surrendered than seized.)
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To: NRx
As silly as is denying that the moon landings occurred, denying that the holocaust occurred in 10,000 times more foolish.
130 posted on 07/10/2019 7:32:09 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Comey,Brennan and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
🤣
131 posted on 07/10/2019 7:46:10 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: pepsi_junkie

“we don’t have that ability” NO. It’s because we don’t have the will.


132 posted on 07/10/2019 8:40:18 PM PDT by bruin66 (Time: Nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once..)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

That’s not it at all. There are 2 factors for this; 1) the movie Capricorn One planted the seed of how it could be done. 2) Dumbass 20 year olds too stupid to pass a pee test that see flaws like their are no stars behind the astronauts that prove it was done in a studio and go “ah ha!” That proves it’s fake. Same bunch of morons that said 9/11 was done with explosives.


133 posted on 07/10/2019 9:28:03 PM PDT by Bommer (Help 2ndDivisionVet - https://www.gofundme.com/mvc.php?route=category&term=married-recent-ampute)
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To: RightGeek

That is hilarious


134 posted on 07/10/2019 11:55:33 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: polymuser
But, happily, you can see the rings around...

Was Saturn awesome last night or what!?

It was huge with the naked eye. Better with binocs. I got out my telescope and was blown away. First time I've seen the rings for myself. Quite the show.

135 posted on 07/11/2019 5:27:37 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Elitist Liberals have no idea the hunger and strength of the beast they have uncaged.)
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To: Boogieman

Best argument for we went to the moon.


136 posted on 07/11/2019 5:40:38 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: erkelly

Well, I don’t think that argument quite is as strong, since it was their St. Kennedy that initiated the program, so they would have a strong motivation to not tarnish him by extension if they exposed Nixon for some chicanery with the moon landings.


137 posted on 07/11/2019 7:33:23 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Oatka

Loved that movie!


138 posted on 07/11/2019 4:38:19 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: NRx

I actually know one of the last 2 to walk/ride on the moon. It was/is real.

Wacko Loonie birds are everywhere, and they deserve self-extinction.


139 posted on 07/12/2019 7:15:53 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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